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Old 02-02-2018 | 03:53 PM
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997.2 RS last manual and Mezger RS.

Perhaps next year more expensive than a 991.1 RS !?
Old 02-02-2018 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
Nah, could buy a low mile 997.1rs for 90-100k while 997.2rs was introduced. It was the low point. They all climbed together as 991 gt3 was rumored pdk-only AND entire car market pulled everything up. But 997.1rs hit their lows while 997.2rs were already out.
997.1rs has big adms when first introduced. Could buy 997.2rs for msrp all day long. And 7.1rs way under msrp during that time.
I type as the DOW is -500, so fingers crossed its -5000 ASAP.

But I think that this time the price increase of new cars is different.
997.1RS was 85K(MSRP $120K) in late 2010-11, after the .2RS came out @ MSRP $132K. By 2013 they were going up, sure along with the economy.

This time the GT3RS is going to be a LOT more before ADM. Just like the .2 GT3 and GT2RS.
My guessing is that the new 991.2GT3RS will be $194K. When the 991.1RS came out ADM was 75-100K over, so that may happen again, unless that -5000 happens.
But even if you can get a .2RS at $200K, it makes the .1RS at MSRP if $175K already look good. I predict a dip for the year $175-$200 (Not mine) for .1RS supported by all those $150-$175K GT3's and $200-$300K .2RS.
in 2019 production stops and the demand > supply.

But what do I know, I bought Bitcoin, American Greed and Dirty Money are my self-schooling.
Old 02-02-2018 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by drdonger
Waxer loves his .1 RS like his child. If my child wasn't that cute, I would still think he or she is the cutest thing on earth =)
But waxer has an ugly orange/reddish haired child
Old 02-02-2018 | 05:34 PM
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@ Trakcar

What do you think about 997.2 RS values?
Old 02-02-2018 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I type as the DOW is -500, so fingers crossed its -5000 ASAP.

But I think that this time the price increase of new cars is different.
997.1RS was 85K(MSRP $120K) in late 2010-11, after the .2RS came out @ MSRP $132K. By 2013 they were going up, sure along with the economy.

This time the GT3RS is going to be a LOT more before ADM. Just like the .2 GT3 and GT2RS.
My guessing is that the new 991.2GT3RS will be $194K. When the 991.1RS came out ADM was 75-100K over, so that may happen again, unless that -5000 happens.
But even if you can get a .2RS at $200K, it makes the .1RS at MSRP if $175K already look good. I predict a dip for the year $175-$200 (Not mine) for .1RS supported by all those $150-$175K GT3's and $200-$300K .2RS.
in 2019 production stops and the demand > supply.

But what do I know, I bought Bitcoin, American Greed and Dirty Money are my self-schooling.
I just see market having a hard time supporting record production of .1 3, .1 3rs, 2rs, .2 3, .2 3rs, R, speedster and who knows what else. My view is less based on relative value of .1 3rs and more that by end of cycle, demand is relatively the same as it was at start of cycle, only there are 2 full runs of supply and next gen just around the corner. Things never feel as tight s/d as when the first RS of the new gen is released. Think 997.1rs, 991.1rs, next. There's no substitute at that point in time. The first handful of RS that are delivered........that's it! There will be a BIG, big pool of gt/rs to choose from at end of cycle.
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What do you think about 997.2 RS values?
Too clunky for the money and not old enough to go up further.
Sell now or hold for another 15 years.


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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR


Too clunky for the money and not old enough to go up further.
Sell now or hold for another 15 years.


what you mean with clunky ?
Do you think its impossible that a 997.2 RS is more expensive in 1-2 years than a 991.1 RS?
(997.2 RS last manual RS, last Mezger, last hydraulic steering...)
Old 02-02-2018 | 06:08 PM
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What do I know but only classics keep going up.
Manuals are back and except for steering feel better in every way.

I'd get a 964RS.
Old 02-02-2018 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Except for my 26,000 mile, driven hard, put away wet, beat and raped RS, I think they will go up again in 2018.
Exactly what happened to the 997.1RS, the .2RS was better in every way, but largely same thing.
Of course the economic cycle will affect everything but If I look what else is out there, I think the GT3 is a solid bottom to lean on and the insane new RS prices will drag the last one up.

Until the Market crash, they will go back up after an initial decline of about 6 months.
Mine will hopefully stay with me forever, so I don't care. I just care what the new ones costs.
^ This100%

When .2 allocations are like hens teeth and adms are $100k+ .1RS will be a bargain at $30k over list.


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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
You forgot the bigger news back then, purple.

There will be a white, a yellow, a red, a blue, a black, a silver and perhaps a green. Some people will think it's just 4 colours with 3 shades of grey. Oh they might forget to paint some cars and leave just the primer on, which they called chalk.
I love red or blue. Cobalt Blue Perhaps? Guard red (First Choice)? Sapphire Blue (Currently Loving)?
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not another value thread....



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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR


Too clunky for the money and not old enough to go up further.
Sell now or hold for another 15 years.


Agree I am looking for an 993 RS (poster car) and high mileage 964RS to rebuild up to sleeper street machine.
Old 02-02-2018 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
U expect to trade in a 2-3yr old 200k+ car and get the new version (which will have a higher msrp) for a 25-30k delta
Absolutely....not taking into account an ADM I think I could easily trade my car for $180K on a $210K MSRP car.....
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Originally Posted by Waxer
^ This100%

When .2 allocations are like hens teeth and adms are $100k+ .1RS will be a bargain at $30k over list.


Salmon is one of the cheapest fish by the pound. ADM on Salmon, not.
But but but, it's an RS
An ugly one at that
Old 02-02-2018 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Waxer


^ This100%

When .2 allocations are like hens teeth and adms are $100k+ .1RS will be a bargain at $30k over list.


Agree and I will be swapping my .2GT3 for .1GTRS as my first permanent toy own and not trade-in.


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