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2016 Cayman GT4
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991.1 911 GTS Manual
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997.2 911 GT3 Manual
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McLaren 570S (Used)
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2016 Audi R8 V10 Plus Coupe (Used)
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Acura NSX
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Cant' Get an Allocation for a 991.2 GT3... So What's the next best thing

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Old 10-26-2017, 08:57 PM
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Unfortunate that you can’t get an allocation, despite having a genuine interest in keeping/enjoying the car instead of flipping it like other people. Surprised the AMG GT S is not on the list. Amazing GT car with lots of race technology and looks/sounds amazing. The rest of list has some amazing cars.

Just take a step back and realize that porsche made its 1 millionth 911 this year, so not that rare of a car, even in GT3 form.
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Easy - a de-badged 991.2 GTS with RAS and MPSC2 N1 - its a far better daily and will be just as quick on track and if you want a GT3 put a 2k deposit down on a 992.1 GT3 now.

Other cars to consider include AMG GT R, Ferrari 488GTB, MacLaren 570S/GT-720S and 718GT4 with PDK. Lots of choices out there.

Cars not to consider - 981 GT4 (endless 3rd gear problems - predictably) and 991.1 GT3 (engines still failing, dealers still replacing coil packs and plugs, clearing cels in spite of the fact every dealership is well aware of the design flaw wrt finger followers and oiling - lawyer in the detail 10 year warranty).

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Old 10-26-2017, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jatmonn997tt
Unfortunate that you can’t get an allocation, despite having a genuine interest in keeping/enjoying the car instead of flipping it like other people. Surprised the AMG GT S is not on the list. Amazing GT car with lots of race technology and looks/sounds amazing. The rest of list has some amazing cars.

Just take a step back and realize that porsche made its 1 millionth 911 this year, so not that rare of a car, even in GT3 form.
Love my 18 AMG GTS. Better daily driver than my 15 GT3 (which was a good daily driver) despite long front hood, thick A-pillars and side windows that obstruct view. Suspension far more compliant, steering still spot on, lots of tech with front/rear sensors, rear view camera, Lane Tracking Assist, updated COMAND interface. Interior far more luxurious, DCT about as good as PDK, matte Carbon Fiber trim looks ****, TT V8 sounds great more deep-throated with lots of pops and crackles, High End Burmester is best automotive audio system I've experienced.
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Originally Posted by surfer
Love my 18 AMG GTS. Better daily driver than my 15 GT3 (which was a good daily driver) despite long front hood, thick A-pillars and side windows that obstruct view. Suspension far more compliant, steering still spot on, lots of tech with front/rear sensors, rear view camera, Lane Tracking Assist, updated COMAND interface. Interior far more luxurious, DCT about as good as PDK, matte Carbon Fiber trim looks ****, TT V8 sounds great more deep-throated with lots of pops and crackles, High End Burmester is best automotive audio system I've experienced.
I sat in one and as much as I wanted to love it all I could see was the long hood!!!
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Originally Posted by jlee504
I sat in one and as much as I wanted to love it all I could see was the long hood!!!
Definitely takes getting used to. I felt the same on my test-drive but after dailying the AMG for a couple months, it's weird but the car seems to shrink around the driver. The front parking sensors help obviously and the overall length is similar to the GT3 but I completely understand your impression. Regardless of what I'm driving from 458 Spider to Huracan to GT3 to AMG, I always make it a habit to roll down the window and take a peek out when I'm negotiating narrow/curving parking garage entrances and exits.

One nice change has been the absence of the rear wing. Always bothered me dailying the GT3 and a big reason I didn't buy a AMG GTR in addition to wanting a more suitable daily driver.
Old 10-27-2017, 08:27 AM
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If you're doing trackdays, get the GT4, price/performance/reliability. If not, get the 458, beautiful, drama, Ferrari.
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:33 AM
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I’m from a different market but the Ferrari is a very sound choice from a depreciation point of view. The cars are very robust, work great on track (not temperamental as some previous models) and are a very different drive to the Porsche. If variety is the spice of life, this will be a Vindaloo (hopefully you know what that is....) It is a masterpiece of a car and at the prices you quote seems like an almost unbelievable bargain. Struggling to believe they will go much cheaper but then I’m not American.
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Thanks for the replies. To respond to a few of them:

1) I can't afford the 488, but i can afford a 2012 458 since they are currently selling for around $150k - $170k.

2) The Mercedes AMG GT-S is a beautiful car, but the long hood and rear visibility bothers me. It just doesn't feel as organic, but everyone keeps saying that you get used to it. When I first drove the 911 I didn't have to get used to it. It felt just right from the start, everything just fell into place. I didn't bumble around with anything. In fact I got a speeding ticket 30 minutes after I purchased it.

3) After consideration I believe that I will just wait it out. Like jatmonn997tt stated, it sucks that the dealership won't give me an allocation, although I have been servicing the same 911 with them for 9 years now. I live in Atlanta and they have so many 3 - 8 month customers that they bend over backwards to give them any and everything that they want. The same 25 - 30 guys get all of the best models over and over and over again. Nobody else really gets to play or experience them. Although I'm not rich like those guys, I have been a loyal Porsche customer and give their service department a lot of money to keep my car is tip top condition. You would think that I would be an ideal customer. I am not a flipper and I actually drive my car and love it. Yet and still they sell the GT3 to guys who are already considering and have deposits on the GT2 RS and GT3 RS... simultaneously, all the while driving the 991.1 GT3 RS and having the GT3 RS 4.0 and 918 in their garage next to the 911 R lol.
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Huracan Performante! Just drove it on track last Sunday. It was ridiculously competent on the track. That active aero worked so well on the straights and turns. That NA V10 was awesome!
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Originally Posted by nastinupe1
Thanks for the replies. To respond to a few of them:

1) I can't afford the 488, but i can afford a 2012 458 since they are currently selling for around $150k - $170k.

2) The Mercedes AMG GT-S is a beautiful car, but the long hood and rear visibility bothers me. It just doesn't feel as organic, but everyone keeps saying that you get used to it. When I first drove the 911 I didn't have to get used to it. It felt just right from the start, everything just fell into place. I didn't bumble around with anything. In fact I got a speeding ticket 30 minutes after I purchased it.

3) After consideration I believe that I will just wait it out. Like jatmonn997tt stated, it sucks that the dealership won't give me an allocation, although I have been servicing the same 911 with them for 9 years now. I live in Atlanta and they have so many 3 - 8 month customers that they bend over backwards to give them any and everything that they want. The same 25 - 30 guys get all of the best models over and over and over again. Nobody else really gets to play or experience them. Although I'm not rich like those guys, I have been a loyal Porsche customer and give their service department a lot of money to keep my car is tip top condition. You would think that I would be an ideal customer. I am not a flipper and I actually drive my car and love it. Yet and still they sell the GT3 to guys who are already considering and have deposits on the GT2 RS and GT3 RS... simultaneously, all the while driving the 991.1 GT3 RS and having the GT3 RS 4.0 and 918 in their garage next to the 911 R lol.
I think you are making the right decision, 100%. Good luck in finding an allocation, or even a car that was ordered and the owner bailed on, hopefully it will be close to the way you would spec.
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If you decide to go for a 458 (which is my fav besides GT cars):
Check w/ your insurance co. for coverage and price...can be a shocker compared to GTs.
Then make sure there is a competent shop to service in your area.
Old 10-30-2017, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GTEE3
If you decide to go for a 458 (which is my fav besides GT cars):
Check w/ your insurance co. for coverage and price...can be a shocker compared to GTs.
Then make sure there is a competent shop to service in your area.
I was seriously considering it, then a comment knocked me back into reality. If you actually drive Ferrari's you kill the resale. Which is so true. In the Ferrari world 25,000 miles is like 100,000.
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Originally Posted by nastinupe1
I was seriously considering it, then a comment knocked me back into reality. If you actually drive Ferrari's you kill the resale. Which is so true. In the Ferrari world 25,000 miles is like 100,000.
Correct sir.

I had said that awhile ago.
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So why didn't a lot of people pick the 570S? That's a little odd now that I think about it.


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