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Old 02-07-2016, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AC SATCO
One year sooner than what? What country are you in?
I ordered the car a year earlier, in mid- February. france
Old 02-07-2016, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rickman_fr
I ordered the car a year earlier, in mid- February. france
I ordered my car in early 2015. PTS was not confirmed by PAG till a few months after launch of the RS. My car just locked in a few days ago and not expecting my car before JULY!!

U got an allocation and a chance to have PTS. I believe it is worth the wait.. It's not easy but we all got to do it lol
Old 02-07-2016, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rickman_fr
I ordered a yellowgreen / 137 / gelbgrün 991 RS almost one year
sonner and i have no information of the delivery. I'm angry
Originally Posted by rickman_fr
I ordered the car a year earlier, in mid- February. france
You should be angry. But look at it from the German side,
PAG put 'Blue Francia Metallic' on the approved PTS list
over one year ago & there is yet not one Frenchman to claim
he (or she) has chosen that beautiful color for their Porsche!
Maybe the Germans are pissed at your countrymen for this
lack of national ardor? Ever thought of that? Sacré Bleu!









Saludos,
Eduardo
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:23 AM
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Eduardo, are there any other colour/codes similar to what went on with the Signal green 3 codes? So in other words, are there similar names of colours that have changed codes? Would it not just be easier and much less confusion to just change the names if they are actually different shades of a particular colour. Hope you understand what I'm trying to ask.
Old 02-07-2016, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Eduardo, are there any other colour/codes similar to what went on with the Signal green 3 codes? So in other words, are there similar names of colours that have changed codes? Would it not just be easier and much less confusion to just change the names if they are actually different shades of a particular colour. Hope you understand what I'm trying to ask.
Colors have changed name constantly through the early years, mostly in English but sometimes in German as well.

Take 225 as an example: in 1973 when launched for the RS it was Emerald Green on the official factory paint charts.

In 1973 "Lime Green" referred to 226 (Lind Green or Chartreuse) in 1974 "Lime Green" referred to 137 (Green Yellow now or Gelbgrun).

If you really want to know the names/color codes for each era you need to buy the official 4 language paint charts that Porsche produced at the time.
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
Colors have changed name constantly through the early years, mostly in English but sometimes in German as well.

Take 225 as an example: in 1973 when launched for the RS it was Emerald Green on the official factory paint charts.

In 1973 "Lime Green" referred to 226 (Lind Green or Chartreuse) in 1974 "Lime Green" referred to 137 (Green Yellow now or Gelbgrun).

If you really want to know the names/color codes for each era you need to buy the official 4 language paint charts that Porsche produced at the time.
Thank you for the response. Seems like it's a little bit more detailed than I originally thought, should have none. Anyhow, very interesting to say the least.
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Originally Posted by AC SATCO
So I emailed them for the hell of it last night. I woke up to a reply and they want $1,150,000 usd for this car. Not bad. I'm going to go look for my checkbook. I seem to have lost it.
They are not the cheapest place to buy a car from.. They have a crazy collection of cars. Most cars are privately owned and the majority of them are on consignment from different collectors. That particular car has been with them for at least 2 years! I say YOLO and buy it cause its Green and Yellow
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Would it not just be easier and much less confusion
to just change the names if they are actually different
shades of a particular colour.
Yes, that would make sense. Especially for W25 version
of 'Signal Green'. It's truly a completely different color
which should not be called 'Signal Green'. That is why
I wrote the following in post #1755:

Originally Posted by Z356
Why they called that new color (W25) 'Signal Green'
is surprising...and confusing.
.
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Eduardo, are there any other colour/codes similar to what went
on with the Signal green 3 codes? So in other words, are there
similar names of colors that have changed codes?
Yes, there are. But in general, we assume that those vintage color
names which have kept their historic vintage color code designation
are the most faithful to their original vintage, or historic, color & hue.
'Signal Yellow' is still 114. 'Lichtgrün' is still 253. 'Viper Green' is still
225. Unfortunately, 'Signal Green' is no longer color code 217...and
perhaps that tells 'a' story about the color formula mixed for 22S.

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Old 02-07-2016, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Z356
Yes, that would make sense. Especially for W25 version
of 'Signal Green'. It's truly a completely different color
which should not be called 'Signal Green'. That is why
I wrote the following in post #1755:



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Yes, there are. But in general, we assume that those vintage color
names which have kept their historic vintage color code designation
are the most faithful to their original vintage, or historic, color & hue.
'Signal Yellow' is still 114. 'Lichtgrün' is still 253. 'Viper Green' is still
225. Unfortunately, 'Signal Green' is no longer color code 217...and
perhaps that tells 'a' story about the color formula mixed for 22S.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
Thank you.
Old 02-08-2016, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamie140
Here you go.
Thank you so much Jamie!!

Originally Posted by Z356
maxt:

Jamie has done a great job of posting those 'Gelbgrün' photos for you.
As you might know, he is getting a gt4 in that stunning color too!

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But here are others from that 991 gts from Porsche Zentrum Hamburg:



Starts on post 866 :

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7085...nd-you-58.html

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We have also discussed this color at the link before:

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...gt3-rs-71.html

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Good luck with your built. We look forward to seeing the
photos once you receive your car.

Saludos,
Eduardo
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As usual, thanks a lot for all the time and patience you devote to us! Looking forward to see the car, I'm getting really excited about it!!

Originally Posted by RSGT
The color above Signalgreen on the new wall at Porsche Zuffenhausen is Birchgreen.The green on the right is Gelbgrün (I took the samples from the wall and read the color names).
The GT3 RS I saw a few weeks ago at the factory is confirmed as Gelbgrün.

Gerald
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That's super helpful, especially because when I first saw your picture I was in love with the color!! But knowing it might look completely different in real life, I'll keep my fingers crossed until the day I'll see mine live!
Old 02-08-2016, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Z356
You should be angry. But look at it from the German side,
PAG put 'Blue Francia Metallic' on the approved PTS list
over one year ago & there is yet not one Frenchman to claim
he (or she) has chosen that beautiful color for their Porsche!
Maybe the Germans are pissed at your countrymen for this
lack of national ardor? Ever thought of that? Sacré Bleu!









Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
Eduardo,

Do you have a picture of a car in this color, or at least a template?

Samuel
Old 02-08-2016, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MoeGt3
Thanks Eduardo appreciate it
Originally Posted by bronson7
Thank you.
Originally Posted by maxt
As usual, thanks a lot for all the time and patience you devote to us!
You are welcome, gentlemen!

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Originally Posted by Z356
You should be angry. But look at it from the German side,
PAG put 'Blue Francia Metallic' on the approved PTS list
over one year ago & there is yet not one Frenchman to claim
he (or she) has chosen that beautiful color for their Porsche!
Maybe the Germans are pissed at your countrymen for this
lack of national ardor? Ever thought of that? Sacré Bleu!









Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

Originally Posted by 928cs
Eduardo,

Do you have a picture of a car in this color,
or at least a template?

Samuel
No, I do not. That is why I jokingly responded
tongue-in-cheek to our French friend (above).
But I would love to find out what this color looks
like.

We know that 'Blue Francia' was a known color
for Alfa Romeo in the late 60's. But it's a solid/uni
& not a metallic.

Blu Francia/French Blue /Bleu France/Französisch Blau
Paint Code(s): AR-342.







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So a Porsche customer could have prepared a sample
of 'Blue Francia' but in a Metallic finish, rather than
a Solid, and submitted it as a PTS color for feasibility
testing at Porsche. The program, after all, is called
'Paint-to-Sample'! But that would be just speculation
on my part.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

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Old 02-08-2016, 02:59 PM
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The Alfa blue looks similar to Porsche's Albert Blue, which in my opinion is a
beautiful rich blue.
Old 02-08-2016, 11:33 PM
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UV or Maritime?

0:25 on video

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Originally Posted by Nizer
UV or Maritime?

0:25 on video




Ultraviolet.

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