GT3 vs 488
08-12-2018, 03:33 PM
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08-12-2018, 03:42 PM
#32
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Ive only driven the 458, not the 488. But, my 991.2 GT3 is, in my humble opinion, a better car in every way over the 458. Subject to driving the 488, I still think my gt3 is better than the 488. My opinion is based on track driving solely. I drive some on the road, but small fraction.
The speciale is the one that I'd love to compare to the gt3.....
The speciale is the one that I'd love to compare to the gt3.....
08-12-2018, 03:45 PM
#33
Are you the same "Benny" on FChat who's been trying to flip his allocations for past 10 years? If not, my apologies but if you're a flipper then be honest about it.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/thr...-spider.579500
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/thr...488-gtb.570214
www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/488gtb.517822
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/thr...-spider.376978
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/thr...-spider.579500
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/thr...488-gtb.570214
www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/488gtb.517822
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/thr...-spider.376978
I think this is an interesting discussion though, eg how good the Porsche GT cars are relative to a supercar that costs twice as much. I'm curious too about the reliability/ownership experience of modern F cars.Jim
08-12-2018, 03:46 PM
#34
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i cant tell you how many people in a Camaro or a mustang pull up next to me revving their engine trying to race. Had a dude in a Tesla that pulled up next to me at a light wanting to race.
i will never ever engage these people. I don’t drive my car like a minivan but if there is a police and they see two cars racing, the guy in the Ferrari is going to jail.
i have nothing to prove and I don’t care how many mods you have on your car. I will not engage these people on the freeway or on the streets.
this is one of the bad things about owning a ferrari
08-12-2018, 03:47 PM
#35
from a pure dollar value standpoint no. The 488
is not twice as good as a GT3. But I don’t see 488 owners pinching pennies trying to justify their purchase. I would argue for 488 owners, it’s not an either or thing. Meaning I get the 488 or I get the GT3. Likely they have the means to do both.
And please don’t turn this into a 488 vs GT3 argument. As an owner of both I find these comparisons silly as I have equal affection for both Porsche and Ferrari.
too many discussions today are too polarizing for no reason whatsoever. I know some will want to say 488 sucks, GT3 is better. Or vice versatility. The rational ones will appreciate both cars for what they are.
is not twice as good as a GT3. But I don’t see 488 owners pinching pennies trying to justify their purchase. I would argue for 488 owners, it’s not an either or thing. Meaning I get the 488 or I get the GT3. Likely they have the means to do both.
And please don’t turn this into a 488 vs GT3 argument. As an owner of both I find these comparisons silly as I have equal affection for both Porsche and Ferrari.
too many discussions today are too polarizing for no reason whatsoever. I know some will want to say 488 sucks, GT3 is better. Or vice versatility. The rational ones will appreciate both cars for what they are.
08-12-2018, 03:55 PM
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But one thing for sure, 488 depreciate substantially vs. GT3's.
For instance, this '16 488 GTB I was looking at buying was at $260K with less then 1,000 miles on it.
MSRP was $286K so $26K below sticker.
08-12-2018, 03:56 PM
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Huh?
Why does the 488 have to be “twice as good” as the GT3?
That seems like an odd way to judge what is intrinsically an emotional decision.
Is a Patek a 1000x times better than a Grand Seiko? Who knows but the person who buys a Patek minute repeater does not ask the question if the watch she is buying is X times better than another brand.
Why does the 488 have to be “twice as good” as the GT3?
That seems like an odd way to judge what is intrinsically an emotional decision.
Is a Patek a 1000x times better than a Grand Seiko? Who knows but the person who buys a Patek minute repeater does not ask the question if the watch she is buying is X times better than another brand.
08-12-2018, 04:00 PM
#38
Huh?
Why does the 488 have to be “twice as good” as the GT3?
That seems like an odd way to judge what is intrinsically an emotional decision.
Is a Patek a 1000x times better than a Grand Seiko? Who knows but the person who buys a Patek minute repeater does not ask the question if the watch she is buying is X times better than another brand.
08-12-2018, 04:25 PM
#41
08-12-2018, 04:29 PM
#42
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A steel Rolex Daytona will probably hold its value better than a Lange Pertpetual, but at the end of the day I’d rather have the Lange and invest my money in bitcoins.
08-12-2018, 04:33 PM
#43
I’m a patek man my self. Have a 5524, 5522, 5905 and a 5968 on order. Arriving in a few months. Sold all my APs, rolexes and everything else. Just love me my Patek’s.
08-12-2018, 04:38 PM
#44
I may be one of those, though I wouldn’t say I have something to prove... But I do get excited when I see someone in a fast car, and hope to find a driving buddy. Unfortunately, I’ve never once ran across a “fast” car in the wild that wanted to go for a fun, quick run.
Its highly disappointing. So, from a guy that “has something to prove”, I hate it when you run across some lame in a Ferrari/Mclaren/ Lamborghini that drives it like it’s a f***ing faberge egg, or worse- a minivan.
It is one reason I am considering selling the 2RS. I worry when I park it on the street. I worry about curbing the magnesium wheels. Living in Central London, I have to garage it a 10min drive from where I live, which also takes away from the enjoyment.
My touring on the other hand, I will park on the street and use daily. It doesn’t give me pit stains and sweaty palms like the GT2 does though.
Huh?
Why does the 488 have to be “twice as good” as the GT3?
That seems like an odd way to judge what is intrinsically an emotional decision.
Is a Patek a 1000x times better than a Grand Seiko? Who knows but the person who buys a Patek minute repeater does not ask the question if the watch she is buying is X times better than another brand.
08-12-2018, 06:44 PM
#45
I will say one thing on this topic of rennlist vs Fchat. Maybe cause I’ve been active on fchat longer, the responses there seem to be more helpful where’s there seem to be more members here who are just snarky. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe it’s just my perception, but just more threads here tend to end up as a s-show.
this is not to take away from many great and helpful and knowleagbe members here. But overall, more arguments and fights here on rennlist than fchat
from my experience. YMMV.
this is not to take away from many great and helpful and knowleagbe members here. But overall, more arguments and fights here on rennlist than fchat
from my experience. YMMV.