First post - Cayman question..
#1
First post - Cayman question..
Hi all, this is my first post here, I'm in the market for a second-hand Porsche Cayman. For the money I want to spend, I can get either a base Cayman with around 20,000 miles, or a Cayman S with anything from 40,000 to 60,000 miles.
Now i know this will largely come down to personal taste, but I'm wondering if the base Cayman will be fast enough and give me enough of a thrill, or if I should look for a well-looked after Cayman S with the higher miles?
In favour of Porsche, and the things I've read, it seems these cars dont show wear and tear in quite the same way as many other makes of motor car. i'm thinking and hoping I might find a one or two owner Cayman S that's really been looked after.
The other side of the coin is that for the same money, I could buy a base Cayman that has very low miles, and possibly has been hardly driven.
As you can tell from my post, I'm undecided and a bit confused.
I'd appreciate any feedback, thank you.
-Scott.
Now i know this will largely come down to personal taste, but I'm wondering if the base Cayman will be fast enough and give me enough of a thrill, or if I should look for a well-looked after Cayman S with the higher miles?
In favour of Porsche, and the things I've read, it seems these cars dont show wear and tear in quite the same way as many other makes of motor car. i'm thinking and hoping I might find a one or two owner Cayman S that's really been looked after.
The other side of the coin is that for the same money, I could buy a base Cayman that has very low miles, and possibly has been hardly driven.
As you can tell from my post, I'm undecided and a bit confused.
I'd appreciate any feedback, thank you.
-Scott.
#3
Three Wheelin'
Welcome, Scott
What years are you looking at? Porsche makes changes almost every year and it's even possible that a later Cayman might appeal to you more than an earlier Cayman S. Just make sure that you know what you are comparing.
Personally, I like buying well maintained cars with higher mileage. Each of the (modern) Porsches we've bought has required some debugging to resolve delivery issues and I'm unconvinced that these would have been caught and resolved before the warranty period expired if the cars were driven as infrequently as many are. Also, if you are looking at non-DI cars, there's more than anecdotal evidence that regularly driven cars do not suffer IMS failures at the same rate.
A good resource for you is also the Cayman Register (http://www.caymanregister.org/). If you are a PCA member, you'll get full access, but even as a guest, you'll get access to most/all of the existing archives. I lurked there (and here) for quite a while before buying our last two Porsches.
Have fun with your search, and be patient - the car you are looking for eventually shows up. Never be afraid to ask a question... but don't forget to search the forums first. There is a ton of good information here.
What years are you looking at? Porsche makes changes almost every year and it's even possible that a later Cayman might appeal to you more than an earlier Cayman S. Just make sure that you know what you are comparing.
Personally, I like buying well maintained cars with higher mileage. Each of the (modern) Porsches we've bought has required some debugging to resolve delivery issues and I'm unconvinced that these would have been caught and resolved before the warranty period expired if the cars were driven as infrequently as many are. Also, if you are looking at non-DI cars, there's more than anecdotal evidence that regularly driven cars do not suffer IMS failures at the same rate.
A good resource for you is also the Cayman Register (http://www.caymanregister.org/). If you are a PCA member, you'll get full access, but even as a guest, you'll get access to most/all of the existing archives. I lurked there (and here) for quite a while before buying our last two Porsches.
Have fun with your search, and be patient - the car you are looking for eventually shows up. Never be afraid to ask a question... but don't forget to search the forums first. There is a ton of good information here.
#4
I'm actually in the exact same boat as the OP, so Scott, hope you don't mind my piggy backing here..
I'm also dealing with my manly urges to get the S, but the base model will still be more car than I've ever owned or driven as a daily driver.. Once drove an M6 for 5 minutes, but thats another story.. Is there dramatic difference in performance between the two? If I get the base, will I regret not getting the S?
One of the things that I find hard to find in listings is some of the creature comforts I'd like to get... I see that Navigation is an option.. Would that be only for the base or S model or is it available in both?
Also, I'm a sales rep (I know I know parden the cliche), but bluetooth and handsfree phone options are one of the features I need as I live in an area with handsfree driving laws.. I would really prefer to have it built in and not one of those mics you paperclip to the visor kinda thing.. So is this an option? Can you have Porsche install this aftermarket, and in doing so is the price absurd? I have only seen it once listed as feature, and its typically not listed in most listings I've seen. If it is, does it work well? Should I throw this out the window and look for aftermarket products? I ask this, because a lot of listings seem to have faulty entries - calling it an S and you see it and its clearly the Base, or saying it has automatic tran but pics show a stick, so I have a tough time knowing the accuracy and I don't want to start asking the dealers too many questions as I'm not ready to buy and don't want the hassles, etc.
Same question for iPod or MP3 connectivity.. I'd rather not have to lug my CDs around in an already tight quarter and this is another option that I have rarely seen in listings. I'm hoping because its one of those options thats standard on most models? Or should I not consider this as much either, and look for aftermarket..
I've considered the potential that if you find one with Nav, it will likely include bluetooth / auxiliary inputs... Are the early models absent of any / all of these options?
This will be my first Porsche and I will be driving it quite a bit, but all my "Porsche" friends say the cars are made to be driven, very reliable, and really fun and great to drive.. I'm so pumped about it..
I guess, as a caveat, if my budget is roughly 33K-34K or less, what are my best options? The price ranges seem to vary only slightly, but for instance I've seen ones with less than 10k miles on an 07' for cheaper prices than ones on this site with 50k miles.. Makes me apprehensive..
I'm also dealing with my manly urges to get the S, but the base model will still be more car than I've ever owned or driven as a daily driver.. Once drove an M6 for 5 minutes, but thats another story.. Is there dramatic difference in performance between the two? If I get the base, will I regret not getting the S?
One of the things that I find hard to find in listings is some of the creature comforts I'd like to get... I see that Navigation is an option.. Would that be only for the base or S model or is it available in both?
Also, I'm a sales rep (I know I know parden the cliche), but bluetooth and handsfree phone options are one of the features I need as I live in an area with handsfree driving laws.. I would really prefer to have it built in and not one of those mics you paperclip to the visor kinda thing.. So is this an option? Can you have Porsche install this aftermarket, and in doing so is the price absurd? I have only seen it once listed as feature, and its typically not listed in most listings I've seen. If it is, does it work well? Should I throw this out the window and look for aftermarket products? I ask this, because a lot of listings seem to have faulty entries - calling it an S and you see it and its clearly the Base, or saying it has automatic tran but pics show a stick, so I have a tough time knowing the accuracy and I don't want to start asking the dealers too many questions as I'm not ready to buy and don't want the hassles, etc.
Same question for iPod or MP3 connectivity.. I'd rather not have to lug my CDs around in an already tight quarter and this is another option that I have rarely seen in listings. I'm hoping because its one of those options thats standard on most models? Or should I not consider this as much either, and look for aftermarket..
I've considered the potential that if you find one with Nav, it will likely include bluetooth / auxiliary inputs... Are the early models absent of any / all of these options?
This will be my first Porsche and I will be driving it quite a bit, but all my "Porsche" friends say the cars are made to be driven, very reliable, and really fun and great to drive.. I'm so pumped about it..
I guess, as a caveat, if my budget is roughly 33K-34K or less, what are my best options? The price ranges seem to vary only slightly, but for instance I've seen ones with less than 10k miles on an 07' for cheaper prices than ones on this site with 50k miles.. Makes me apprehensive..
#5
Three Wheelin'
Hi Palmetto, and welcome!
The RL Cayman forum isn't as active as the 987/981 forum, and all Caymans fall under the 987/981 model - you should check both.
I'm not an expert on the Bluetooth or sound options, but I believe that Aux and Bluetooth are relatively recent additions (at least as a part of the standard build). They are on my 2012 Cayman R, but not on my 2008 RS.
There have been multiple postings on the iPod/MP3 connectivity on RL in the past, and you will find experts here.
The RL Cayman forum isn't as active as the 987/981 forum, and all Caymans fall under the 987/981 model - you should check both.
I'm not an expert on the Bluetooth or sound options, but I believe that Aux and Bluetooth are relatively recent additions (at least as a part of the standard build). They are on my 2012 Cayman R, but not on my 2008 RS.
There have been multiple postings on the iPod/MP3 connectivity on RL in the past, and you will find experts here.
#6
Hi Guys, thanks for the replies, and sorry for the delay in responding.
Steve - I'm looking at probably an 06 or 07 model Cayman as I live in Australia, and even the 6 year old vehicles are around $60k - $65k (Porsche's are obscenely expensive here)
I hear you in regard to finding a well looked after vehicle, even with higher k's - I think i'd rather fine a one (possibly two) owner vehicle thats been lovingly looked after, rather than a five+ owner vehicle thats changed hands too much, even if it had lower k's.
Rubber Ducky - I appreciate your thoughts, I'll definitely need to drive a base Cayman and see if it feels like "enough car" for me LOL.
Palmetto - no worries about the hijack, i learn something new from other people's questions all the time.
Steve - I'm looking at probably an 06 or 07 model Cayman as I live in Australia, and even the 6 year old vehicles are around $60k - $65k (Porsche's are obscenely expensive here)
I hear you in regard to finding a well looked after vehicle, even with higher k's - I think i'd rather fine a one (possibly two) owner vehicle thats been lovingly looked after, rather than a five+ owner vehicle thats changed hands too much, even if it had lower k's.
Rubber Ducky - I appreciate your thoughts, I'll definitely need to drive a base Cayman and see if it feels like "enough car" for me LOL.
Palmetto - no worries about the hijack, i learn something new from other people's questions all the time.
#7
I have an 07 base cayman, and sometimes I wished I springed for the S version. But once I get in and drive, and around the first corner, that all goes away.
Like what most said, the base should be enough power for you. But if your budget allows, I don't think more hp ever hurt anyone.
I personally would get one with lower miles too. My 07 Cayman, which I got about 1.5 years ago, had only 14,500 miles
Good luck
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Like what most said, the base should be enough power for you. But if your budget allows, I don't think more hp ever hurt anyone.
I personally would get one with lower miles too. My 07 Cayman, which I got about 1.5 years ago, had only 14,500 miles
Good luck
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#8
I guess, as a caveat, if my budget is roughly 33K-34K or less, what are my best options? The price ranges seem to vary only slightly, but for instance I've seen ones with less than 10k miles on an 07' for cheaper prices than ones on this site with 50k miles.. Makes me apprehensive..
For what it's worth, I'm buying a CPO 2006 Cayman S with 38k miles (from porsche dealer), and getting the front clear bra'd, for $34k. This is my first porsche as well, and I really wanted a warranty.
#9
Race Director
Hi all, this is my first post here, I'm in the market for a second-hand Porsche Cayman. For the money I want to spend, I can get either a base Cayman with around 20,000 miles, or a Cayman S with anything from 40,000 to 60,000 miles.
Now i know this will largely come down to personal taste, but I'm wondering if the base Cayman will be fast enough and give me enough of a thrill, or if I should look for a well-looked after Cayman S with the higher miles?
In favour of Porsche, and the things I've read, it seems these cars dont show wear and tear in quite the same way as many other makes of motor car. i'm thinking and hoping I might find a one or two owner Cayman S that's really been looked after.
The other side of the coin is that for the same money, I could buy a base Cayman that has very low miles, and possibly has been hardly driven.
As you can tell from my post, I'm undecided and a bit confused.
I'd appreciate any feedback, thank you.
-Scott.
Now i know this will largely come down to personal taste, but I'm wondering if the base Cayman will be fast enough and give me enough of a thrill, or if I should look for a well-looked after Cayman S with the higher miles?
In favour of Porsche, and the things I've read, it seems these cars dont show wear and tear in quite the same way as many other makes of motor car. i'm thinking and hoping I might find a one or two owner Cayman S that's really been looked after.
The other side of the coin is that for the same money, I could buy a base Cayman that has very low miles, and possibly has been hardly driven.
As you can tell from my post, I'm undecided and a bit confused.
I'd appreciate any feedback, thank you.
-Scott.
The base car will have the lowest running costs: insurance, fuel, tires, brakes; CV boots last longer.
The S has more power.
Really you have to decide first if you want an S or a base and then find the best example you can afford and buy it.
#10
Former Vendor
For what it's worth, I'm buying a CPO 2006 Cayman S with 38k miles (from porsche dealer), and getting the front clear bra'd, for $34k. This is my first porsche as well, and I really wanted a warranty.
#11
262K miles in a base Boxster and it still thrills. But drive examples of both cars and make up your own mind.
The base car will have the lowest running costs: insurance, fuel, tires, brakes; CV boots last longer.
The S has more power.
Really you have to decide first if you want an S or a base and then find the best example you can afford and buy it.
The base car will have the lowest running costs: insurance, fuel, tires, brakes; CV boots last longer.
The S has more power.
Really you have to decide first if you want an S or a base and then find the best example you can afford and buy it.
I think I'll search for the best condition Cayman I can find in my price range, regardless of whether it's an S or base model. Because irrespective of which variant I buy, there's always faster cars out there. I realise Cayman's are all about the handling, and like mchi55 said, I'm sure off the line speed will be forgotten by the first corner.
#12
I really enjoy reading this and thank everyone for there input as I hope to purchase in about three months. Love to hear the stories and what actual owners say. I learned a lot, I will be looking at 2007 -2008 base model with IMS done or a S model or a 2009 model. Just really want to track it at some point so leaning towards the S.
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I really enjoy reading this and thank everyone for there input as I hope to purchase in about three months. Love to hear the stories and what actual owners say. I learned a lot, I will be looking at 2007 -2008 base model with IMS done or a S model or a 2009 model. Just really want to track it at some point so leaning towards the S.
#14
Well, I was shopping during my entire 7 month deployment to Afghanistan this year. I was very close to going down the 996 C2 route, but when I found this CPO Cayman S in the right color, I decided that it would be more prudent for my first Porsche to have a warranty. Especially one with the M96/97 motor.
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Well, I was shopping during my entire 7 month deployment to Afghanistan this year. I was very close to going down the 996 C2 route, but when I found this CPO Cayman S in the right color, I decided that it would be more prudent for my first Porsche to have a warranty. Especially one with the M96/97 motor.