stevecolletti

+1, especially when there is such a huge profit potential.

And this isn't even controversial, like some of the changes Porsche has made to homogenize the cars and make them more accessible to more people. I sure don't get it. Exclusive should be a license to print money and make some people very happy.

Schmidts Cat

I'm still wondering why their "Black" leather is more like very dark grey?

Marine Blue

You're right but at the same time it is nice that we can customize our cars. Most brands in this price range would not include anywhere near the customization Porsche offers and while it does seem pricey it really isn't bad when you compare what prices are for exclusive versions of an MB, Audi or BMW.

Z356

Afshin:

I think we all have to educate ourselves as to what Porsche's competition is doing re: customization before we go too deep in praising 'Porsche Exclusive'! Like you, I started out thinking that Porsche was way ahead of the pack in this area of customization and devoted quite a bit of effort in this forum in telling folks all about it! But other German manufacturers are catching up fast:

'BMW Individual', even two years ago when I last looked, was offering the following:

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/c...ndividual.html

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle..._catalogue.pdf

'Audi Exclusive' is even more aggressive, especially in Europe and the Middle East! Attached is their old '10 'Audi Exclusive' catalog. This will give you an idea of what they can do re: customizing. This is an old catalog without prices from when I last looked in 2010! But I remember that some options are much cheaper than at Porsche! For example, if you order an existing color in production elsewhere on the Audi model range, PTS is only $2500. So 'Solar Orange' on a R8 (first photo) would be less than half of the $5500 charged presently by 'Porsche Exclusive'! The 'Signal Green' R8 (second photo) is probably more costly since it's not an Audi production color!

But even in the standard options on the upcoming '14 R8 Order Guides (see attachment), you will see stuff like deviating stitching in four colors ('red', 'Beige', 'Nougat Brown' and 'Madras Orange') for their Black leather interiors. If you select this option for approx. $250, your seats, doors & dash will have this awesome deviating color stitching! In contrast, deviating stitching is 'a la carte' at 'Porsche Exclusive'. $250 does not cover even the smallest deviating stitching on the smallest leather they offer! A full deviating stitching interior on a Porsche 911 can run close to $2000 and somewhat less in the smaller cabin of the Boxster!

So I think 'Porsche Exclusive' does indeed has to do a better job if it expects to be called truly successful. It needs to improve its communications with dealers and potential customers first of all. Then, it needs to closely look at some of its pricing. Some of the same PE options have almost double in cost from the 997 to 991! If this trend continues, they will surely terribly damage this program and many of us will simply give up on it!

Saludos,
Eduardo

Only1Buck

Eduardo I agree with your comments regarding Porsche...with my second Boxster Spyder the reason I went with the red/black combination was because I was told they were never going to offer PTS for the Boxster Spyder...I kept on asking and asking and the answer was no no no...then they offer PTS for less than a 10 day period...I was not a happy camper and it was at that point I decided I would never get a new Porsche every again I have owned many over the years and I am 55 now and have more than a few good years left in which I would have been able to get more new Porsches but not anymore they have lost me forever as a customer of new cars...thank you for the opportunity to vent ...

orthojoe

Hmmm... it seems more and more to me that Porsche is only interested in catering to the uber rich and famous. Outrageous pricing and selectively offering options only to 'special' buyers. That seems to contradict VW's goal for larger volume unless they think that the uber rich and wealthy numbers are growing exponentially. Perhaps it is, but I'm not one of them. That C7 is looking better and better everyday.

Gruson

So is there a Riviera or Mexico Blue 981 or 991 available anywhere? New or used...

the_vetman

To buy? I doubt it.

There are Riviera Blue 981s but they belong to happy owners.

JUPJAI

I am about to place at PTS order on a 991 C4S cab.....Mexico Blue.....will let you know what I am told. Selling my Spyder.

grahal09

Hi everyone. Happy to help if anyone has questions. I see my 981 has been a topic of discussion here!

As for the steering wheel, I ordered it because its carbon. Its a street car, not a race car. I have paddles on my Cayenne GTS and they are cool, but lets be honest carbon is way cooler!

Z356

Welcome back, Graham! Love for you to compare the handling as you remembered from your Riviera Blue Spyder to this Riviera Blue 981S? Is the weight difference felt at all?

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

grahal09

I would be happy to compare once its dry enough to take it for a spin. The Boxster Spyder I loved, actually had my Green GT3 RS at the same time and almost wanted to sell the RS and keep the spyder as I liked it that much.

However from a quick few minutes I just feel the sportiness of the 981 is apparent at any speed. The car is fun to drive, way roomier for us tall guys, and I think its gorgeous looking. I did love the looks of the spyder though too, so really hard to say anything bad either way.

Schmidts Cat

Eduardo, that green R8 has your name all over it!

Z356

Ian, I think I need better eye glasses! I looked long & hard at that R8 for hours...and I can't find 'Eduardo' written, painted or scribbled anywhere on that beautiful shiny exterior? You must be pulling my chain!

By pure coincidence I happened to look up the history of this green R8 tonight. It was custom ordered by a customer from Tennessee. It is a MY2010 v10. The original owner sold it to buy a 'Samoa Orange' gt R8. Turns out the exact color on this R8 in question is not 'Signal Green'. It is 'RS Green', a Porsche color from the '07/'08 gt3 RS. Since it is not an Audi production color like 'Solar Orange', it had to cost much more than $2500!

I have also seen an Audi RS4 done in PTS 'RS Green'! And the fellow that posted right before you, Ian, knows all about PTS RS4's too, since he once owned a 'Glut Orange' RS4 himself! The circle of PTS owners is indeed very small and they tend to be repeat customers!

Saludos,
Eduardo

Schmidts Cat

Are you going to tip us off on your color direction for the R8? I prefer signal green to RS green, but it looks great anyway.