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Old 04-13-2022, 04:59 PM
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Beautiful 33k-mile Polar Silver 3.6 Turbo. Not usually a fan of blue interiors, but the Polar Silver with the Marine Blue leather looks quite sharp.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...che-911-turbo/
Old 04-13-2022, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Beautiful 33k-mile Polar Silver 3.6 Turbo. Not usually a fan of blue interiors, but the Polar Silver with the Marine Blue leather looks quite sharp.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...che-911-turbo/
There coming out of the woodwork. The tahoe did quite well considering the miles usually scare people. Nice car and a great price these days.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
There coming out of the woodwork. The tahoe did quite well considering the miles usually scare people. Nice car and a great price these days.
Yes they are, The red 965 3.6 with low mileage bought 41% more money that the high mileage blue 965 3.6. Very different than the NA 964's. A low mileage 1989 964 C4 sold for 10% more than a high mileage 1990 964C2 on BAT. Hmmmm. It's trend that I've noticed. Why?

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Originally Posted by heliolps2
Yes they are, The red 965 3.6 with low mileage bought 41% more money that the high mileage blue 965 3.6. Very different than the NA 964's. A low mileage 1989 964 C4 sold for 10% more than a high mileage 1990 964C2 on BAT. Hmmmm. It's trend that I've noticed. Why?
Cars that are more collectible tend to be more mileage sensitive. Not only like this with the Turbo cars. 964 C4 Widebody and 964 RS are very mileage sensitive just to name a couple.
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Cars that are more collectible tend to be more mileage sensitive. Not only like this with the Turbo cars. 964 C4 Widebody and 964 RS are very mileage sensitive just to name a couple.
Well said, That's what I thought,
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The bigger issue is everyone relies on carfax which only shows reported incidents and recorded mileage. I can't tell you how many severely crashed 911's I see that don't go through insurance so no carfax is noted. Also the invention of ice blasting has made it far harder to tell actual miles. The turbo on BaT is a perfect example. Presents well looks great to the uninitiated is being sold as original paint. But is it? I suspect the numbers will show original but there is a smoking gun and I highly doubt most anyone will pick up on it.
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That silver one went for $415K. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...che-911-turbo/

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Wicks, I almost bought one like that silver 3.6 turbo. Had a similar color interior with Blue Tartan. It was $32,000 and couldn't be properly fixed. Some sketchy place in New York had it.
I might have to buy your 3.6 if you don't get it running.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
The bigger issue is everyone relies on carfax which only shows reported incidents and recorded mileage. I can't tell you how many severely crashed 911's I see that don't go through insurance so no carfax is noted. Also the invention of ice blasting has made it far harder to tell actual miles. The turbo on BaT is a perfect example. Presents well looks great to the uninitiated is being sold as original paint. But is it? I suspect the numbers will show original but there is a smoking gun and I highly doubt most anyone will pick up on it.
Now that the auction's over, what is the smoking gun?

At $415k it seems like the bidders either didn't care, or didn't know (assuming the latter).
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No spot weld marks on Passenger quarter inside the decklid. Usually means replacement. Looks like a A+ job
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Haha will never sell.

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Wicks, I almost bought one like that silver 3.6 turbo. Had a similar color interior with Blue Tartan. It was $32,000 and couldn't be properly fixed. Some sketchy place in New York had it.
I might have to buy your 3.6 if you don't get it running.
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The rear quarter was clearly repalced on that car. They were very careful not to post pics of anything that would give away any work. The slight amount of weld shown at the bottom of the quarter was too clean and the lack of spot welds are only some indication. There is also a misalignment of the decklid to quarter panel and some of the tab used to dip the panel protruding. This was the car in a prior life. https://inventory.motorcargroup.com/...sche-3-6-turbo I did not initially recognize the car but I had looked at pics of it prior to all the changes after looking into some records I had and it had gone through several changes over the years. AFAIK the car came with deviated piping and that was it. There were no Z codes and the car does have leather gage surrounds which were added as I had mentioned but seller responded it didn't. It didn't come with leather gages and AFAIK should have been sold as TMU. Paint readings show extensive paint work which would ring true with what I recall and other things like he never posted pics of the speedline etching which I must assume is gone on at least one of the wheels which had been repaired at one time as it is misaligned. There are speakers mounted into the back shelf and other strange things going on and no original parts. The Dot on the 3.6 is not oriented properly so that is a deal breaker for me.

As I have said when I was looking for mine back back in the early 2000's very few of these were as clean as the cars we are seeing now so clearly a lot of them have had haircuts and many full makeovers. This one had several makeovers and I suspect even more but can't say without looking at it in person. I would be concerned that it was in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. IMO I think it sold for a fair price considering all the ???'s and unknowns. I see many flood cars reconditioned and sold as never having issues so who knows what happened here.

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Anthony, I preferred them rough cause I could afford to buy them before 2014. Look at the polar silver fender and arctic nose. Good gaps, just a paint issue.
Dash Boost gauge usually meant they drive the crap out of them. My engine with low miles has a good amount of wear. You never know how the previous owners drove their cars.


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I agree. I do have a customized PLX gauge in my turbo which reads boost, AFR's, intake and output IC temps. Although it was more of a novelty and I can revert it back but I suspect this car was flogged pretty hard at one time. In either case there are enough ??'s to pass on car like this without a full PPI.

This pic says a lot as well.


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RPM has a couple interesting RoW spec Turbo’s. A 31k-mile PTS Lavender Blue/Light Grey-Magenta 3.6 and a 26k-mile Black/Black 3.3 w/X33 power kit.

3.6:
http://www.rpmsportscars.com/door15.htm

Previous listing of the 3.6 from 2 years or only a couple hundred miles ago:
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/d...-911-36-turbo/

3.3:
http://www.rpmsportscars.com/door20.htm

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