Lorenzoh

997Pilot

stutt911

stutt911

cobalt

I know the buyer of the 90 C2. It was far worse than even I could have imagined. Although the new owner has plans for the car that negates some of the downside. BTW the seller lied through his teeth in so many ways it borders on criminal.
I am sad to see this thread has turned into a pissing match. That is why I am through with BaT. We can argue facts here with the ability to add content and maybe a separate thread regarding BaT would be a better place to discuss this. We can do that here unlike on BaT.

I will add for the moment that it is my first hand experience BaT not only moderates comments but seems to purposely place a blind eye on many turds that are equal to the 90 discussed above.

What bothered me most is I watched as two incredible low mile pristine honest cars (non 964) were put up for auction on BaT by friends at my suggestion which I regret. In both cases BaT would not allow the ad to be placed with the reserve the sellers requested, stating they were unrealistic. IMO these cars were worth $50k more than the reserve and what they sold for and although the cars did not meet reserve, BaT stepped up and covered the balance to the seller. I later found out that both cars were purchased by people shall we say closely associated with BaT. IMO this was the begining of the end and it has just gotten worse since.

As far as LSD's I will be rebuilding mine at 62k miles this year. The 964 LSD I hate to say is a POS. Better than not having one but far from ideal. Easy enough to remove repair and install without the need to measure backlash if you do it correctly costing around a grand to fix. Irrespective of that when buying these cars you have to expect some needs and a few thousand should be set aside for repairs like these assuming it matters to you. I have been driving my C2 for 2 years now and barely miss it.

No doubt LSD's needing or not needing rebuild and broken fog lights and other simple things are of minimal concern when considering buying these cars or not. Every car needs something just as there is no such things as a #1 car. When someone like myself is pointing out deceptive practices that maybe the novice cannot pickup on it is the responsibility IMO of BaT to pull the ad or address the issue. By now if it is that blatantly clear to someone like me they should be aware as well. They have proven to me time and again that being a dishonest seller is Ok and they will do what they can to see that car sells. That doesn't detract from the honest seller however how is the new buyer to know what is good and what is not without the aid of the comments.

Ironically I don't believe I have been banned but have tried posting with no results. Each time I hit save a message pops up saying you have already posted that. I have no interest in making a stink over it. I have a potential new venture I am working on that will allow me to help owners of these cars first hand providing honest services for honest pricing. Haven't decided if I want to come out of retirement as I enjoy my free time so much but when/if I do I will let everyone know. For these reasons i will be posting less than I have in the past. I am still happy to help where I can.

So lets get back to 964's for sale and get along here. If we want to make a stink like this lets bring it over to Pelican where people like Sugarwood can stroke themselves and speak their ignorance with authority.

I believe we discussed this and I am assuming by now everyone knows why this car isn't worth what they are asking.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Porsch...​​

Bossing

Saw that at DRT and my first thought was.... rare & stunning in that shade but MUST be seen in person if you're serious about it... plus that's a huge asking premium just for the Maritime in a 964T and "possibly" the only one in existence claim.







And iirc, it was in someone's collection locally and been in the US (imported from Japan) for at least 10 yrs already....

misterbeverlyhills

What turns me off about BAT, and increasingly here, so many negative comments from folks who just aren't buyers. If you are so worried about the LSD on a car you have no intention of buying, maybe it's time to start worrying about something else.

Let's say, despite the seller's good rep and the car's obvious attractions; the LSD is a paperweight, is that really a deal breaker, worthy of a page and a half of verbal animosity? I think some folks let the keyboard get the better of them; things get typed that would never be said in a face to face discussion.



I just bought a M3 long distance, the car arrived and is MUCH nicer than advertised, better than I had hoped for. I bought the seller (and a PPI) but there are still several minor things that need attention. I consider a couple of grand minor. If I bought Tarek's white car I would expect to do the same, these cars are in a constant state of about to need something.



What I would expect from a seller of Tarek's experience, is not to find replacement panels, hidden accident damage, poor paint, flubbed rebuild invoices; I could care less about the possibility the LSD is a lump, any plug and play repair comes with the territory. I certainly wouldn't go to war, on a forum I hope to benefit from, over it.

Marine Blue

Ralph3.

Agreed

Lorenzoh

Bloose993TT

Another backdated "budget Singer" 964 up for sale. You would think they would replace the engine pad and lugs for that type of money.

https://www.motorcargallery.com/vehi...ckdated-outlaw

Lorenzoh

Deserion

Definitely looks clean. Wonder what the build date is. I find it interesting that it's an 0082 car with aluminum intake manifolds, and my 0235 car has composite. Wonder which Targa was the switchover.

kkswow12

ouch...! and, sorry, but woof also...

misterbeverlyhills

BTW Tarek's car fetched $63k plus preem plus tax etc. Given the desirable color combo, sport seats cup 1s and (ahem) LSD, I thought it was well bought.

Especially when you consider what they are asking for the horror show that is the poor man's Singer Targa in white..........