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Old 04-05-2019, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnutintib
i think if folks are going to live on this board and start unnecessary, heated pissing matches, they should at least pay a site membership fee
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Old 04-06-2019, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloose993TT
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yeah, I’m sure that membership fee would change everything for you and the next time I make a valid point and someone gets their panties in a bunch you’d look the other way....
Sure thing, sign me up 🙄
Old 04-06-2019, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
Sorry no new links. We know the early 964's will need a top end sooner than the later 964's, although mechanical needs are becoming less important and should start to be expected as these cars turn 30. Trying to find a clean straight coupe without stories is becoming a challenge and when they come along an interested buyer should always consider looking into them and factoring in what the PPI states. I highly recommend paying up for a leak down and compression test. No PPI you get wheat you deserve. When I look at 964's for sale I focus first on the structural integrity and then the records. Replacing rubber parts and other little bits can be as costly as a top end and are usually overlooked. I would prefer an accident free car needing a top end vs the other way around. There are a lot of 964's with "fresh" top ends and bad resprays done by people I wouldn't trust working on a 30 year old civic.

BTW I have looked at a lot of 964's and 993's with well over 130k miles on the engines with leak down numbers in the 3-5% range. You can't ask for better than that.
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thats all I was saying since the car in question is a ‘90.
I’ve also looked at a lot of 964/993s with well under 100k miles that need complete rebuilds. My last 993, a MY ‘97 had 48k when I bought it and 8-20% loss across all cylinders. I knew that based on the leak down and factored it in to the purchase price.
Old 04-06-2019, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorenzoh
bold above.
thats all I was saying since the car in question is a ‘90.
I’ve also looked at a lot of 964/993s with well under 100k miles that need complete rebuilds. My last 993, a MY ‘97 had 48k when I bought it and 8-20% loss across all cylinders. I knew that based on the leak down and factored it in to the purchase price.
Anyone reading this thread in its entirety should be aware of the nuances and needs of these cars. That is why it is stressed that every car should have a thorough PPI by an experienced shop. I wouldn't sell a car without one. Pointing out the less obvious issues or problems sellers try to cover up would help others more. You can destroy an engine or burn out a clutch in no time if you don't know what your doing. As I said I just did a leak-down on a 130k mile engine leaking oil all over the place but it still had numbers of 3-5%. Question is does it need a top end or not? Interestingly to fix the leaks will cost similar money to a top end and both will resolve the leaks. Do you take apart a perfectly good engine or just fix the leaks?
Old 04-06-2019, 12:57 PM
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I agree with Anthony, mileage is not always going to be an indicator of what the car needs. For example, my Targa with 65k miles went through a full reseal before I bought it and when they had the engine apart the only thing that was measured as being off was the cams. So the cam was taken care of but the rest of the engine was reassembled with all new soft parts only. Before I bought the car I did have a compression and leak down and both numbers came back between 3-5% so top end definitely wasn’t necessary.

If a low mileage car needs a top end or more I would personally do two things, I would look very closely at the service history to see if the car was properly maintained. Second I would look very very closely at the cosmetics to confirm if the paint, interior, trim and undercarriage match up with what I would expect from a low mileage car. If it doesn’t I would question the mileage accuracy. There’s no point getting a low mileage car if it’s not in excellent cosmetic condition, you gain nothing IMHO other than a higher entry fee and the same high costs to rebuild it.
Old 04-07-2019, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorenzoh
bold above.
thats all I was saying since the car in question is a ‘90.
I’ve also looked at a lot of 964/993s with well under 100k miles that need complete rebuilds. My last 993, a MY ‘97 had 48k when I bought it and 8-20% loss across all cylinders. I knew that based on the leak down and factored it in to the purchase price.
Just like how you were so interested in the LSD on his C2 and had to bad talk it lol. Your negativity on a particular members cars again and again , i think the entire forum already is sick of it.

Low mileage cars are just as much of a risk as higher mileage cars if they haven't had a top end, also you have no idea what that cars compression and leak down numbers were or its condition. Many people like a nice driver thats not a garage queen, and its obvious the car was priced rite on the market or below since it was snatched up so fast . Take your personal hostility and put it into something positive maybe you will be a little more likable.
Old 04-10-2019, 01:09 AM
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-21/


quite possibly the biggest waste of money and worthless build I’ve ever seen For a track car??? 😂
Old 04-10-2019, 09:33 AM
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They threw a lot of money at it but wouldn't be my first choice for a track build. I doubt the 550Hp is at the wheels most likely the crank.
Old 04-10-2019, 04:38 PM
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1991 c2 on pelican $75,000 with 72k miles

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-2-964-c2.html
Old 04-10-2019, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stutt911
1991 c2 on pelican $75,000 with 72k miles

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-2-964-c2.html
looks like a well priced and nicely sorted car with good maintenance history.
Old 04-10-2019, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by stutt911
1991 c2 on pelican $75,000 with 72k miles

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-2-964-c2.html
That one's also been for sale on RL for a couple weeks. https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-2-964-c2.html
I believe this seller had a nice 964 in the past that he sold on RL, it was amazon green maybe?
Old 04-10-2019, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dtronics
That one's also been for sale on RL for a couple weeks. https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-2-964-c2.html
I believe this seller had a nice 964 in the past that he sold on RL, it was amazon green maybe?
a little over a year ago is when I started looking for a 964 and the way prices are going I think I’m giving up, I guess I wanted a deal and by waiting I missed the boat , $75k for a 91, wow
Old 04-10-2019, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stutt911
1991 c2 on pelican $75,000 with 72k miles

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-2-964-c2.html
It sure looks like a nice car. I have lost all interest in these cars at these prices. I have owned nearly 2 dozen 964's including some of the odd ball models over the years. The market can keep em when a clean straight 91 with miles in the 70's is a $75k car. Its been fun but I simply don't care at that price.
Old 04-11-2019, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Trader220
It sure looks like a nice car. I have lost all interest in these cars at these prices. I have owned nearly 2 dozen 964's including some of the odd ball models over the years. The market can keep em when a clean straight 91 with miles in the 70's is a $75k car. Its been fun but I simply don't care at that price.
I agree. I love the 964 and was thinking maybe it was time to pull the trigger on one but these prices are a turn off. Good for sellers but I am not going to drop that kind of cash on a 964.
Old 04-11-2019, 04:56 PM
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For $70 to $75k I'll buy a G-body car and drop in a 3.6 or rebuild the 3.2 to perform a whole lot better and then build out the rest of what I want. As much as I love the 964, I find the prices silly. I get it, my opinion is not the market but I won't be participating.

BTW Abreu Motors has a Murano Green C2 coupe that looks sweet LOL

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