Great AMERICAN 964s for sale
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Been a long time since I've seen red interior on a 964. Agree it looks remarkably good for >100k miles but ad copy says "All Original Leather throughout the interior". Worth a call to investigate...
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If it was a C2 I would be considering taking a look at this one.
I saw an Amazon green with supple leather cashmere yesterday. Had 90k miles and the interior was in no where near this condition but tan does not hold up as well. Too bad the rest of the car was not as nice as this one.
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http://www.landmarkmotors.com/detail...-17194280.html
Just had 3K in service done from Squire's Autowerke
Just had 3K in service done from Squire's Autowerke
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Point of reference I know of a reworked 89 C4 engine done three years ago. Machined the heads used all original parts and did not add the seals. Owner has daily driven the car since and has put many thousands of miles. So far no oil leaks. Whether it is a matter of time we will see but also who did the work makes a difference. Engine was rebuilt by a 50 year veteran Porsche engine builder.
I’d rather have that than a 28 year old garage queen with 30k miles.
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http://www.landmarkmotors.com/detail...-17194280.html
Just had 3K in service done from Squire's Autowerke
Just had 3K in service done from Squire's Autowerke
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First, thanks for all the great info on this forum.
I am trying to decide if I should sell my 964. Sale is to pursue another car as financially and space wise I cannot have two 911's. Potential car would be a new Carerra T(I know what am I thinking selling an air cooled car for new) So either talk me off the ledge of selling it, or maybe talk me into in because you want to buy it. Here is a few pictures and info about my car. Let me know what you guys think it might bring price wise. I have trying to follow recent sales on here and other places to gauge prices, but thought you guys might have some further insight.
1991 C2 5 speed (Late year production run so it had the factory head gaskets), I am the second owner
85,000 miles
Color is Black with Beige interior
Car has sunroof and no other options from factory
In the spirit of full disclosure, this car is a driver, not a show car nor investment grade vehicle. However it is a very nice driver, I am extremely picky and meticulous and would not have bought this car if it was rough. I will disclose everything I know about the car, if I decide to sell, everything I know will be disclosed. Previous owner did some DE events with this car as disclosed to me upon my purchase, as some point the car did have roll bar installed and fire extinguisher. Both have been removed and the only evidence is underneath the car where you can see the holes that are patched for the roll bar.
Car has clean carfax, no evidence of any damage. Car underwent a thorough PPI at my time of purchase 1 year ago, he noted no signs of any damage to the car. Compression and leak down test were very good and I am happy to provide my PPI to interested parties if car becomes officially for sale. Engine pulls very strong. The only question that will come up is, hood was resprayed at some point during previous owners time. The hood sticker was reapplied as there is adhesive residue, but unfortunately the sticker came loose and was discarded but previous owner.
Car has partial service records. First owner went through several moves in which he unfortunately lost some of the records. So I have what he had, which to me amounts to about half to 3/4 of what he did. I have every receipt for everything I've done in my year of ownership.
Car is mostly stock other than what follows:
Fitted with Cup 1 wheels (unfortunately the D90's that were original did not come with the car)
Porsche 964 Series Cup Car Suspension from the Euro RS cars, I have receipt for this and install evidence by a reputable shop in New Jersey in late 90's.
3rd, 4th, and 5th gears have been shortened
Lightweight flywheel
Quaife LSD
Steve Wong Chip recently installed by me(programmed for primary muffler bypass and lightweight flywheel)
FVD primary muffler bypass pipe(I have original stock muffler)
Car had G-pipe setup when I bought it, I have retained that in case that is to next owners taste vs primary bypass.
Stock airbox was removed and replaced by cone filter by previous owner.(Let the debate on that one rage on)
Paint on the car is original except: Hood resprayed(could use another respray to be perfect), also just above the left rear wheel there was some touch up work done. You can see it up close but not from any further than 5-10 feet away. I would call the paint 7 or 8 out 10. If you wanted the paint to be near perfect, a hood respray and blend in of the area above wheel by good paint shop would be needed. I drive the car so I have personally elected to leave those two areas alone for now.
Interior is in excellent condition, I just purchased a brand new set of Coco mats as seen in the picture below. Has older aftermarket Alpine CD player installed by previous owner.
Car comes with factory manual, tool kit and air compressor.
As part of the partial service records, the only gap was when the last valve adjustment/15k service was done. Valves are however very quiet, but I will have the 15k service done soon and prior to any sale to have a baseline and offer the vehicle in good faith. No known engine issues, has very small trace amounts of oil around chain boxes that you tend to see on all these cars. New cap/rotor, plugs, brake fluid, battery, door window switch done 1 year ago.
Here are some pictures, let me know what you guys think. I would of course post many more detailed pictures if car officially becomes for sale. Thanks!
I am trying to decide if I should sell my 964. Sale is to pursue another car as financially and space wise I cannot have two 911's. Potential car would be a new Carerra T(I know what am I thinking selling an air cooled car for new) So either talk me off the ledge of selling it, or maybe talk me into in because you want to buy it. Here is a few pictures and info about my car. Let me know what you guys think it might bring price wise. I have trying to follow recent sales on here and other places to gauge prices, but thought you guys might have some further insight.
1991 C2 5 speed (Late year production run so it had the factory head gaskets), I am the second owner
85,000 miles
Color is Black with Beige interior
Car has sunroof and no other options from factory
In the spirit of full disclosure, this car is a driver, not a show car nor investment grade vehicle. However it is a very nice driver, I am extremely picky and meticulous and would not have bought this car if it was rough. I will disclose everything I know about the car, if I decide to sell, everything I know will be disclosed. Previous owner did some DE events with this car as disclosed to me upon my purchase, as some point the car did have roll bar installed and fire extinguisher. Both have been removed and the only evidence is underneath the car where you can see the holes that are patched for the roll bar.
Car has clean carfax, no evidence of any damage. Car underwent a thorough PPI at my time of purchase 1 year ago, he noted no signs of any damage to the car. Compression and leak down test were very good and I am happy to provide my PPI to interested parties if car becomes officially for sale. Engine pulls very strong. The only question that will come up is, hood was resprayed at some point during previous owners time. The hood sticker was reapplied as there is adhesive residue, but unfortunately the sticker came loose and was discarded but previous owner.
Car has partial service records. First owner went through several moves in which he unfortunately lost some of the records. So I have what he had, which to me amounts to about half to 3/4 of what he did. I have every receipt for everything I've done in my year of ownership.
Car is mostly stock other than what follows:
Fitted with Cup 1 wheels (unfortunately the D90's that were original did not come with the car)
Porsche 964 Series Cup Car Suspension from the Euro RS cars, I have receipt for this and install evidence by a reputable shop in New Jersey in late 90's.
3rd, 4th, and 5th gears have been shortened
Lightweight flywheel
Quaife LSD
Steve Wong Chip recently installed by me(programmed for primary muffler bypass and lightweight flywheel)
FVD primary muffler bypass pipe(I have original stock muffler)
Car had G-pipe setup when I bought it, I have retained that in case that is to next owners taste vs primary bypass.
Stock airbox was removed and replaced by cone filter by previous owner.(Let the debate on that one rage on)
Paint on the car is original except: Hood resprayed(could use another respray to be perfect), also just above the left rear wheel there was some touch up work done. You can see it up close but not from any further than 5-10 feet away. I would call the paint 7 or 8 out 10. If you wanted the paint to be near perfect, a hood respray and blend in of the area above wheel by good paint shop would be needed. I drive the car so I have personally elected to leave those two areas alone for now.
Interior is in excellent condition, I just purchased a brand new set of Coco mats as seen in the picture below. Has older aftermarket Alpine CD player installed by previous owner.
Car comes with factory manual, tool kit and air compressor.
As part of the partial service records, the only gap was when the last valve adjustment/15k service was done. Valves are however very quiet, but I will have the 15k service done soon and prior to any sale to have a baseline and offer the vehicle in good faith. No known engine issues, has very small trace amounts of oil around chain boxes that you tend to see on all these cars. New cap/rotor, plugs, brake fluid, battery, door window switch done 1 year ago.
Here are some pictures, let me know what you guys think. I would of course post many more detailed pictures if car officially becomes for sale. Thanks!
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machining the mating surfaces helps, but I’m surprised one would go to all that effort not to use seals. But, and I should have clarified, driven regurally, the leaking is minimized greatly. Cars that get a “re-seal” only to be driven a few thousand miles per year will start leaking again. These cars like to be driven, hard. That’s why a well maintained car with higher mileage ~150k shouldn’t be a concern.
I’d rather have that than a 28 year old garage queen with 30k miles.
The later engines with seals shouldn't leak around the heads if properly driven, although all of these cars will have issues with the timing chain covers, mains seals and oil pressure sending units along with dried out oil hoses given time. Much of this is dependent on how the car is stored and driven.
My turbo has 38K miles and it has no leaks whatsoever. My C2 with 61k miles many track driven has no leaks whatsoever. Every car is different how it is driven is critical. I find more leaking engines come from owners who don't allow the engines to come up to temp before they get on them. When looking at these cars it is usually pretty clear once underneath whether the car will be a problem or not. I don't trust odo as many I have looked at I would say are far from accurate and many have had them rolled back or driven for 10's of thousands of miles with the speedo disconnected.
Generalizations about these cars can be a mistake. Here are pictures of the engine that now has 24k miles and he claims it sat all summer last year without driving it. he uses it primarily in the winter months.
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This is a pretty car.
Possible real cup 1 on left front and right rear although they look kind of like that French copy and then Mille miglia on right front and left rear. I'm seeing a lot of this mixing of wheels in ads lately.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302628935209
Possible real cup 1 on left front and right rear although they look kind of like that French copy and then Mille miglia on right front and left rear. I'm seeing a lot of this mixing of wheels in ads lately.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302628935209
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This is a pretty car.
Possible real cup 1 on left front and right rear although they look kind of like that French copy and then Mille miglia on right front and left rear. I'm seeing a lot of this mixing of wheels in ads lately.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302628935209
Possible real cup 1 on left front and right rear although they look kind of like that French copy and then Mille miglia on right front and left rear. I'm seeing a lot of this mixing of wheels in ads lately.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302628935209
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This is a pretty car.
Possible real cup 1 on left front and right rear although they look kind of like that French copy and then Mille miglia on right front and left rear. I'm seeing a lot of this mixing of wheels in ads lately.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302628935209
Possible real cup 1 on left front and right rear although they look kind of like that French copy and then Mille miglia on right front and left rear. I'm seeing a lot of this mixing of wheels in ads lately.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302628935209
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Just spotted this on craigslist for Portland, OR. Lowest price I've seen in quite awhile, if it is what the ad claims.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/6481030182.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/6481030182.html
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Just spotted this on craigslist for Portland, OR. Lowest price I've seen in quite awhile, if it is what the ad claims.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/6481030182.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/6481030182.html
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