Longhood Friday: 964 backdates and other retro ideas
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DP hard at work to get below 1000 kgs.
Cut out all the unnecessary bits!
Cut out all the unnecessary bits!
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a brief interruption.... a quick look at a FACTORY forward-date.
993 __Prototyp 03/1993
Foto: Porsche 911_Tobias Aichele
993 __Prototyp 03/1993
Foto: Porsche 911_Tobias Aichele
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Another build in progresss, fresh from paint shop. IROC RSR clone on a 964 chassis. Rothsport EFI, 3.9L 420 hp. EB Motorsports steel RSR flairs and fiberglass parts. Rothsport Matter cage copy.
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I know the RSVT logo is perhaps a bit misleading. You get the impression we are professionals and not just enthusiasts.
But the people asked us to do it. Give it a name.... it's too good to have no name.... so we named it RennSport Vintage Tech since we build car no 4 (orange). In springtime you will see some articles in the German magazines 9elf and perhaps werk1 / PorscheFahrer about, how it all started back in 2010.
We built 5 cars since then and we still don't intend to make a business out of it! It would just push the prices for the base car even more..... No, we build it, we drive it (fast) and if somebody can't resist any longer, we may sell it.
We have still many ideas for future projects.....
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Just add holes. DP's sub 1000 KG 964 is taking shape.
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Interesting. They are using an early tub with the tall rear shock towers.
My 74 IROC was built by a guy named Bauman and Max Moritz back in the 80's using factory parts. It had Aluminum hood, doors and front fenders. Along with a very thin factory front bumper. The tub was cut in the front to accommodate the 20 tube racing oil cooler.
Looks like it will be a nice project when they are done. My clone weighed in at 2390 pounds with full tank of gas and full interior. At 272hp it was a monster back then I can only imagine how this will be with the expected HP.
My 74 IROC was built by a guy named Bauman and Max Moritz back in the 80's using factory parts. It had Aluminum hood, doors and front fenders. Along with a very thin factory front bumper. The tub was cut in the front to accommodate the 20 tube racing oil cooler.
Looks like it will be a nice project when they are done. My clone weighed in at 2390 pounds with full tank of gas and full interior. At 272hp it was a monster back then I can only imagine how this will be with the expected HP.
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From Total911.com's "Emmerling Porsche 964 backdate: The Original Retro:"
You could be forgiven for thinking the trend towards so called retro-moderns is something new, a recent phenomenon brought about by a groundswell of enthusiasm for classic cars coupled with a desire to use them like a modern car.
It’s a trend that’s easy to understand, with the benefits clear: some of the most iconic classics of yesteryear are remixed with modern mechanicals to deliver a stunning and unique driving experience, with that delicious style we so love about classics.
And it’s becoming ever more popular, with reimagined versions of everything from the Jaguar E-Type and Jensen Interceptor to the Alfa GT and Austin Healey, available with a modern heart beating beneath their classic curves.
But surely the biggest exponent of the retro-modern philosophy (and perhaps the most suitable) is the Porsche 911. While California-based Singer grab many of the headlines (they are, undeniably, stunning objects), Paul Stephens in the UK will happily build you something equally stunning via his PS AutoArt division, with Autofarm and 911 Retroworks getting in on the game too.
Although it may seem to be a modern trend (Singer was formed in 2009), there is a little known company in the countryside west of Frankfurt who first imagined the concept and completed a car in 1994. It’s the same car you see on these very pages, the first ‘Emmerling Porsche’.
The story dates back to 1991 and the Geneva Motor Show introduction of the now enshrined 964 RS. Emmerling decided he had to try one as soon as possible, and the subsequent drive left a big impression on him.
A fan of the classic 911 look, he started dreaming of how amazing it would be to transplant this level of performance and technology into his favourite classic 911 shape, the wonderful 2.8 RSR of 1972. Well, if you’re going to recreate a masterpiece, why not choose the best version, of the best version?
Of course, this would be a challenge fraught with difficulty. The engine and gearbox should prove simple enough – but transplanting the modern electronics, the ABS system, the chassis components, and providing a shell with the requisite stiffness?
This would be a far harder task. So it seemed natural to turn the whole problem 180 degrees, and think about it like this: if it’s not possible to retrofit the older shell, why not fit the retro look, and a dose of that wonderful classic character, to the later car?
To read our RSR Retro test drive in full, pick up Total 911 issue 135 in store today. Alternatively, order your copy online for home delivery or download it straight to your digital device now.
Originally Posted by Josh Barnett
You could be forgiven for thinking the trend towards so called retro-moderns is something new, a recent phenomenon brought about by a groundswell of enthusiasm for classic cars coupled with a desire to use them like a modern car.
It’s a trend that’s easy to understand, with the benefits clear: some of the most iconic classics of yesteryear are remixed with modern mechanicals to deliver a stunning and unique driving experience, with that delicious style we so love about classics.
And it’s becoming ever more popular, with reimagined versions of everything from the Jaguar E-Type and Jensen Interceptor to the Alfa GT and Austin Healey, available with a modern heart beating beneath their classic curves.
But surely the biggest exponent of the retro-modern philosophy (and perhaps the most suitable) is the Porsche 911. While California-based Singer grab many of the headlines (they are, undeniably, stunning objects), Paul Stephens in the UK will happily build you something equally stunning via his PS AutoArt division, with Autofarm and 911 Retroworks getting in on the game too.
Although it may seem to be a modern trend (Singer was formed in 2009), there is a little known company in the countryside west of Frankfurt who first imagined the concept and completed a car in 1994. It’s the same car you see on these very pages, the first ‘Emmerling Porsche’.
The story dates back to 1991 and the Geneva Motor Show introduction of the now enshrined 964 RS. Emmerling decided he had to try one as soon as possible, and the subsequent drive left a big impression on him.
A fan of the classic 911 look, he started dreaming of how amazing it would be to transplant this level of performance and technology into his favourite classic 911 shape, the wonderful 2.8 RSR of 1972. Well, if you’re going to recreate a masterpiece, why not choose the best version, of the best version?
Of course, this would be a challenge fraught with difficulty. The engine and gearbox should prove simple enough – but transplanting the modern electronics, the ABS system, the chassis components, and providing a shell with the requisite stiffness?
This would be a far harder task. So it seemed natural to turn the whole problem 180 degrees, and think about it like this: if it’s not possible to retrofit the older shell, why not fit the retro look, and a dose of that wonderful classic character, to the later car?
To read our RSR Retro test drive in full, pick up Total 911 issue 135 in store today. Alternatively, order your copy online for home delivery or download it straight to your digital device now.
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