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Who has a single crank pulley on their 3.6 and have you had any problems as a result?

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Old 05-13-2012, 02:49 PM
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Default Who has a single crank pulley on their 3.6 and have you had any problems as a result?

Debating whether or not to replace my Patrick motorsports single crank pulley with the stock dual pulley with harmonic balancer on my soon to be finished rebuild. Thanks for any experienced responses. Also cross-posted on pelican.
Old 05-13-2012, 03:31 PM
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I have the OEM RS pulley on both the 964 and 993 without issues.
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Theo is talking crank pulley, not the fan/alternator pulley.
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Jon, buy a harmonic balancer.

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Originally Posted by ja78911sc
Jon, buy a harmonic balancer.
US$1400 - ouch!

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I found a used one on ebay for 250 dollars or thereabouts...and i thought that was even too expensive...I just couldnt imagine spending for a new one...the OEM price is rediculous.
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Originally Posted by Marc Shaw
US$1400 - ouch!

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Yes, I hit the floor when I made the call on a new balancer

I purchased a used harmonic balancer and had Dale Manufacturing in Oregon rebuild the rubber insert. He machines the rubber out and forms in new rubber.

dalemfg.com

Dale rebuilds the pulley and his wife answers the phone. It was 110.00 not including shipping. two day turn around. I highly recommend his service.
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I didn't think it was worth the risk of not replacing the harmonic balancer. They can be bought used for a sensible price but I would recommend rebalancing along with the flywheel etc if you are rebuilding. I think there are a couple of photos of how much variation you can get from pulley to pulley!

https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...rebuild-4.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-e...estions-2.html
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Thanks Alex. Despite the explanation to the contrary, most of the responses I've rec'd on pelican and here have been that folks with the single pulley with no harmonic balancer just have not had the problems one would expect. Still gathering real data.
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No, I agree & went through the same thing myself - I personally would have much rather put a nice lightweight single pulley on the crank to match the rs pulley on the alternator but I'm not that much of a gambling man.

I do believe that the problem with the 964 crank / harmonic balancer is probably only in a very few cases and the percentage chance of it happening are probably very small but for me just not worth the risk unless someone else is prepared to rectify the potential damage at their expense.

All said & done it will probably be fine either way but Porsche must have fitted it for a reason right?
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Originally Posted by ALEX P
No, I agree & went through the same thing myself - I personally would have much rather put a nice lightweight single pulley on the crank to match the rs pulley on the alternator but I'm not that much of a gambling man.

I do believe that the problem with the 964 crank / harmonic balancer is probably only in a very few cases and the percentage chance of it happening are probably very small but for me just not worth the risk unless someone else is prepared to rectify the potential damage at their expense.

All said & done it will probably be fine either way but Porsche must have fitted it for a reason right?
And Porsche did keep the harmoinc balancer on the Cup cars and I guess they did some thinking in this matter.

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Yesss, but 1500$ is ridiculous... Is a f...ng piece of metal and rubber, has no brain, no **** and no electronics in it...
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Originally Posted by doruiacovescu
Yesss, but 1500$ is ridiculous... Is a f...ng piece of metal and rubber, has no brain, no **** and no electronics in it...
No arguments here. It is a ridiculous price and anybody who stumps up that sort of dollar for a new one needs their head checked.

Porsche parts prices are like that, sometimes they are surprisingly reasonable and sometimes they make your eyes water.

Buy a used one.
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Originally Posted by ALEX P
No arguments here. It is a ridiculous price and anybody who stumps up that sort of dollar for a new one needs their head checked.

Porsche parts prices are like that, sometimes they are surprisingly reasonable and sometimes they make your eyes water.

Buy a used one.
The problem with used is most are bad or are near bad. The rubber portion of the balancer after years of heat becomes hard and cracks (it is visible on the outside of the pulley).
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I was looking at a lower pulley / harmonic balance as it is often called. Actually it is only the HVAC pulley that is rubber mounted, the inner two pulleys are solid. I imagine the HVAC is rubber mouted to absorb bumps when the HVAC clutch does its thing. For cars running without HVAC there is no need to have anything but a normal single or double pulley wheel.


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