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Old 04-14-2012, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheeksyboy

It does sound, from what you've described so far, that you may have 'got away with it' and for the sake of a couple of filter and oil changes after a few gentle/leisurely drives you'll know more clearly whether you truly have.
Fingers crossed. It's the next step.

Originally Posted by freedman

But if the rockers are damaged in some way, it's likley to be caused by fatigue, not by something else deeper in the engine surely

In what way are they damaged?

I'm with the majority here, change the oil and filter, use it and ponder the next step

What is GT Ones opinion on the best course?
I don't know in what way they were damaged - questions for Monday.

Craig's POV is to rebuild - he thinks that at this stage in the engines bottom end life and with the way I use the car ultimately it's the long term corse considering more damage could be done/ has already been done deep within.

He suggests I should drive it, change oil/ filter, carry out a leak - down test and reassess the right corse to take.
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Originally Posted by Porsche964FP
Fingers crossed. It's the next step.



I don't know what way they were damaged - questions for Monday.

Craig's POV is to rebuild - he thinks that at this stage in the engines bottom end life and with the way I use the car ultimately it's the long term corse considering more damage could be done/ has already been done deep within.

He suggests I should drive it, change oil/ filter, carry out a leak - down test and reassess to right corse to take.
Sorry to say mate, but if you track a car, even with the engine in fine fettle, it's put through more stress and load than many a spirited road drive....and if you've got a known concern/problem...it'll soon show up!

I defo agree with Craig, but then again it's not my money.....

Should I have the truck and trailer on standby for Donnington!?
Old 04-14-2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche964FP
A new crank shaft is serious ££££ - although can that be affected by this?

PS> Someone call The Good Doctor!
Cranks can be reground, so don't panic....and you're right, where's the Dr....prob sanding down his wheels for another coat of lacquer!
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If a rebuild is the only solution, you might as well use it, have the filter opened and the oil analysed.
A clear, simply worded description of the damage would help us keyboard experts tremendously. From what we have, it is at the best very foggy.
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Originally Posted by freedman
Frank,

I'm confused, you spoke to Peter again and the damage has caused debris?

What damage?

You havent said previosly there was any confirmed damage or what was damaged, or have I missed something?
Where's the best place for Frank to source reasonably priced engine internals?

You da man for the hottest prices
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Frank - doesnt sound great but hoping for the best for ya. Also - did you get "sign off" if the rebuild is required or not - wasnt clear on that?
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How about, as an alternative....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-911-p...7#ht_500wt_715

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-PORSC...#ht_1779wt_958
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Originally Posted by GeorgeK
If a rebuild is the only solution, you might as well use it, have the filter opened and the oil analysed.
A clear, simply worded description of the damage would help us keyboard experts tremendously. From what we have, it is at the best very foggy.
As aforementioned, on Monday I'll call up for more details.

Originally Posted by Cheeksyboy
Where's the best place for Frank to source reasonably priced engine internals?

You da man for the hottest prices
Gary's number will be on speed dial should it go this way!

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Frank - doesnt sound great but hoping for the best for ya. Also - did you get "sign off" if the rebuild is required or not - wasnt clear on that?
Sign off? I've told Craig - who was as expected understanding, that I am looking at considering other specialist as well as GTOne should I take this corse of action.
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Here! i just sneaked out of a wedding reception for a quick catchup, yoink.

So the rocker can't have been too bad if they've put it all back together, or did they fit a new one? As others have said pics of the damage and a description in Peters own words would help us internet geniuses reasure you that GTOne are on the money (which they probably are)

My gut is saying change the oil and filter and run it, if it sounds right it probably is.

Gotta dash, they'll be sending search parties after me. . .

I'll give you bell tomorrow Frank.
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Or this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-91...ht_1290wt_1165 if only they were cheaper...

Besides imagine if I did buy a replacement engine and it failed... you can't know the internal condition... also I'd rather keep a 964 a 964, if I keep.


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Here! i just sneaked out of a wedding reception for a quick catchup, yoink.

I'll give you bell tomorrow Frank.
A Dr is always on call - legend, thanks! I believe they've replaced the rocker - I'll find out...
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nah mate - i meant from the other alf re: "sign off".....sounded like she maybe wasnt on board that was all......even though it is your cashola........"happy wife happy life" and all that....
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Originally Posted by Cheeksyboy
Where's the best place for Frank to source reasonably priced engine internals?

You da man for the hottest prices
Grant,

Wouldnt even know what to start looking for with engine internals I'm afraid

Bit of a minefield I think, unless youre just replacing with OEM there are so many upgrades available.

TBH if this was me, and of course Frank its down to how you feel in the end, however

I would change the oil and filter, run it and at the same time get an oil sample analysis to see if there ar eany serious contaminents left

Then if a rebuild was required I would go to someone like Richard Chamberlain or maybe Nick Fulljames for initial advice

Richard Chamberlain should certainly be able to advise should you want to upgrade in any way
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Originally Posted by Porsche964FP

Gary's number will be on speed dial should it go this way!

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Frank,

Happy to assist in any way I can, of course

Gary
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Originally Posted by Porsche964FP
Or this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-91...ht_1290wt_1165 if only they were cheaper...

Besides imagine if I did buy a replacement engine and it failed... you can't know the internal condition... also I'd rather keep a 964 a 964, if I keep.




A Dr is always on call - legend, thanks! I believe they've replaced the rocker - I'll find out...
Oh, now you're talking.......that would rock in a C4...., but you're right....a lottery win, or a FoC rebuild and install would be required......what a sleeper'ish that would make!

Originally Posted by freedman
Grant,

Wouldnt even know what to start looking for with engine internals I'm afraid

Bit of a minefield I think, unless youre just replacing with OEM there are so many upgrades available.

TBH if this was me, and of course Frank its down to how you feel in the end, however

I would change the oil and filter, run it and at the same time get an oil sample analysis to see if there ar eany serious contaminents left

Then if a rebuild was required I would go to someone like Richard Chamberlain or maybe Nick Fulljames for initial advice

Richard Chamberlain should certainly be able to advise should you want to upgrade in any way
You're right, of course, but maybe when Frank knows what the prob/damage is...then your keyboard skills may be of help to keep any wanna-be open cheque rebuilder in check!
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Hi, I'm intrigued up here.

I guess I am wondering about previous top-end work and whether it was done right? Experience with 356's tells me lots of people can fix Porsche engines, but not many can do it like the factory would. Its just in case your top end was recent enough for you to ask the guys that did the work some questions about this new uncharacteristic failure in the valve train...

Examining the oil and the filter for shrapnel, and running the motor if all clear is definitely what I would do too btw. Maybe consider a flush including oil cooler and lines too?

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