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Old 12-13-2017, 06:59 PM
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I think that if you buy a 964 ($50,000) and then do a back date (another $50,000+) you are going to be concerned about mileage and wear and tear etc and it will become a garage queen. Buy a 964, leave it as a 964, do regular service on it and a few performance upgrades as you see fit - don't go too far or it wont be fun on the street - and then drive the snot out of it.

If I wanted a 964 (and I did) I would buy a 964 (and I did) and I would take the above advice (and I am).

If I wanted an older long nose Porsche I would have bought one.

Whatever you do, please post photos. Good luck.
Old 12-13-2017, 10:41 PM
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And there appear to be some big dollars spent on the car. I can forgive some items, but the 964 side skirts just look wrong. the lower door sill between the wheel wells is almost never addressed well during back dates...

Originally Posted by The Italian Pursuit
Example, in my opinion, of a backdate gone wrong...

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F122856210767
Old 12-14-2017, 01:11 AM
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Backdates are the new hotness these days. They can go for big money if done right. One sold on bringatrailer last week for over $220K. The key is finding someone who knows what they're doing. There is nothing worse than a backdate gone wrong. I bought this car (https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-varioram.html) from a rennlister a few years ago with the intent to eventually backdate it and recently commissioned Zurlinden to do the work for me. The work has been top notch and the experience has been positive. You can see my car in process on his Instagram if you want to get an idea of his work (
View this post on Instagram
). PM me if you want more info. But as others have said, I'm not sure starting with a 964 makes sense if you're going to take backdate it. Just buy the cheapest, straightest chassis you can find since you'll be stripping it mostly apart anyway.
Old 12-14-2017, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jballance
Backdates are the new hotness these days. They can go for big money if done right. One sold on bringatrailer last week for over $220K. The key is finding someone who knows what they're doing. There is nothing worse than a backdate gone wrong. I bought this car (https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-varioram.html) from a rennlister a few years ago with the intent to eventually backdate it and recently commissioned Zurlinden to do the work for me. The work has been top notch and the experience has been positive. You can see my car in process on his Instagram if you want to get an idea of his work (https://www.instagram.com/p/BUgCQh2B...y=zurlindenllc). PM me if you want more info. But as others have said, I'm not sure starting with a 964 makes sense if you're going to take backdate it. Just buy the cheapest, straightest chassis you can find since you'll be stripping it mostly apart anyway.
Actually they were a bigger craze two years ago and the trend seems to be slowing. I have a friend who was selling several two years ago and the last few are just sitting. The BaT car sold for far more than it should have. There seem to be people that just want to get in quickly but don't care if they overpay. I could easily build that car for a lot less and the dyno info was a joke. That car on a mustang dyno would show its true potential which isn't close. The long nose cars were light weight and trying to bring a 964 down to the numbers an earlier tub can easily achieve will cost big. A nice 2100 pound 911 with 280 hp is a far more rewarding drive than some of these heavy 964 backdates.
Old 12-14-2017, 10:01 AM
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That gray DP Motorsport 2.8 RSR style 964 backdate that 911Jetta posted above is currently for sale. Mid $160k USD?

https://m.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/detail...2&id=254326018
Old 12-14-2017, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Vandit
That gray DP Motorsport 2.8 RSR style 964 backdate that 911Jetta posted above is currently for sale. Mid $160k USD?

https://m.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/detail...2&id=254326018
It is a very nice build. Although to me it is not practical. All of what makes a 964 a more modern safe sports car has been removed and replaced with safety devices that are IMO unsafe.
No air bags, side impact is a single bar. It is hard to tell but it doesn't appear as though the front part of the cage has a knee bar connecting both sides and then there is no knee pad. Front and rear impact has been removed. Safety harnesses for the street are illegal in some states and limited ventilation.

If you remove all of these components why not use an earlier tub and convert it to coil over. It would be similar in most every respect, weigh less and you could easily retrofit electric ABS or power steering if you want. the donor would be cheaper and easier to come by as well.



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