My car crushing lap record on Swedens no 1 track
#107
OT a bit, but good article easily demonstrating the differences of Garrett vs Precision. Not a big deal, but worthy of a quick read. I like the Precision's performance in my car, but did want to use a Garrett. We traded my old Turbonetics GTK 650 with a .82 for the Precision 6262 .68.
If/when this turbo shows any issues, a Garrett will likely replace it.
G
If/when this turbo shows any issues, a Garrett will likely replace it.
G
#108
If you get a chance to compare the new ones are worth a look in ...
#109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCA8...ature=youtu.be
Last edited by 333pg333; 07-10-2014 at 10:19 PM.
#110
http://www.turbodirect.co.za/site/in...=778&Itemid=21
Weird, I posted the link. Here is the "quick read" article with pictures.
Weird, I posted the link. Here is the "quick read" article with pictures.
#111
We are changing how the TEC/Boost controller, and waste gate communicates. Instead of fuel cut, the limp mode will now be at 6psi. The locking connection on the BC clip to TEC broke, and a few times it's come apart. Fuel cut happens around 3K, so the TEC is seeing over 17psi by then...Fixed the issue, but I'd prefer a limp low boost mode vs the immediate SHUT DOWN shudder...Scared the CRAP out of my brother while HE was driving. Thankfully I was the passenger and knew how to remedy.
G
#112
#116
This dissection of Precision/Garrett would make me steer clear of precision turbos..
http://www.turbodirect.co.za/site/in...d=26&Itemid=20
http://www.turbodirect.co.za/site/in...d=26&Itemid=20
This specific Precision shaftwheel’s blades measure 1.4mm thick and this specific component is made in China by a company called Worldturbocharger, this company is well known for manufacturing “copy” products of OEM original Garrett, KKK, IHI, Holset etc – this company uses a material called K18 for the turbine head, which is a steel derivative with a high thermal ceiling, but by no means anywhere near the same quality as the Inconel 713LC material used by Garrett, KKK or Holset, hence the thicker blades on the Precision turbine, thicker blades simply mean more weight, and for any component which relies on its ability to accelerate, weight is not great. The shaft also appears to have been friction welded onto the turbine head.
Precision is a company that up until recently was really just a distributor of Garrett turbo’s. They would take Garrett turbo’s and resell them, mainly focusing on the aftermarket scene. Then they started to modify Garrett turbo’s and openly advertise how their turbo’s were out performing standard Garrett turbo’s. As you can guess Garrett wasn’t happy about that. You would have to assume Precision as a company knew what they were doing. We have all heard the saying: “you shouldn’t crap where you sleep”. Garrett then cut off precision as a supplier.
#118
When you say 'much quicker' what are you talking? I don't have my logs to hand but I wonder just how much more linear another turbo might be. With a track only car between those normal rpms I don't think we would need to be a lot more responsive than they are already. Gustaf and I share almost the same turbo although he runs higher c/r than our car. My impression is that I wouldn't want it to kick in much earlier than it already does. See either of our videos for visual confirmation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCA8...ature=youtu.be
Porsche 944 Turbo GTR lap record on Mantorp Park 1:19.348 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCA8...ature=youtu.be
Porsche 944 Turbo GTR lap record on Mantorp Park 1:19.348 - YouTube
Note that the car is just running 1.0-1.1 bar of boost in the video. With 1.2-1.3 bar I saw a reduction in acceleration times of 10%. Would be interesting in the name of science to turn it up to "11" but since the car obviously is quick enough for lap records as is why bother
I need to tune the driver (me)
#119
This dissection of Precision/Garrett would make me steer clear of precision turbos..
http://www.turbodirect.co.za/site/in...d=26&Itemid=20
http://www.turbodirect.co.za/site/in...d=26&Itemid=20