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Old 07-21-2014, 08:21 AM
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It's absolute so in fact only 0.6 bar boost. It moved "slightly" better when I turned it up to 1.35 bar
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Still don't understand why the 4-1 merger popped out, the pics you had posted showed serious welds... and I can't believe any back pressure caused this.
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A double slip fit collector is not welded to the primaries. Some info here about the benefits: http://www.burnsstainless.com/techno...boheaders.aspx
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Ok... did you also weld some outer securing "sticks"?

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Originally Posted by Thom
Ok... did you also weld some outer securing "sticks"?
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I used springs to hold it together but the were too weak for higher boost.
Read the posts Thom
Now I have added tabs and bolts to hold it together.
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Hard to figure without pics that the "springs" you mentioned was actually that... sorry Sir!
Old 07-21-2014, 10:03 AM
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Sorry I've been looking at so many headers the past years that I took it for granted. Double slip fit piping is always held together by either springs or bolts. Here's an example
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Well, I saw many race headers up close in the past but could never understand how mere springs could hold them together...

Could a double-slip set up require a certain EGT level to cause the inner sleeve to expand enough and tighten the outer sleeves?
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Could a double-slip set up require a certain EGT level to cause the inner sleeve to expand enough and tighten the outer sleeves?
It seems to be enough with normal running temps. Everything is very tight and I had to use the sledgehammer to seat it fully. I haven't seen any soot at all around it.
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As you raised the boost a bit, what kind of hp/psi were you seeing? Looks like 30 hp+/psi? I was seeing over 20 hp/psi with the 8V head. With your setup I bet it is an amazing increase for every psi.
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Originally Posted by refresh951
As you raised the boost a bit, what kind of hp/psi were you seeing? Looks like 30 hp+/psi? I was seeing over 20 hp/psi with the 8V head. With your setup I bet it is an amazing increase for every psi.
I don't really know but the difference is huge. The 150-200 km/h sprint was cut in half (!) timewise with high boost compared to low boost as in the video. Almost got me scared
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Love the video!
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Originally Posted by Thom
Ok... did you also weld some outer securing "sticks"?

I would suspect wastegate ^^^ issues with such a design. The springs helps to control harmonics, less chance of breaking header ..
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Nice video Gustaf! I'm curious to the 1.35 video.. ;-)
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Where's Duke., It's Monday ....


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