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Old 04-11-2014, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Metal 951
I beg to differ! This is a work of art in my books!


https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...res-added.html
I built this at home in 1.25 days.
Clicked on the link, saw the pictures, the first thing I thought was "man I need a TIG." Go to page 2. First post at the top of 2? Me. All it read was "Man,I need a TIG." At least I'm consistent - wish my welds were!

But a question for you. On the heat shield to the starter. Did you mount it to the body, or the exhaust? And it looks almost like it came from some other car, rather than something that was fabbed. What did you do there? I'm building mine right now (though with a MIG, and it ain't as pretty!(.
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Originally Posted by pole position
^ You have never welded in your life.......those are hand welded, don't need a robot for that. Tig welding is easy if you put the time in it , the new (expensive) welders make it extremely easy, all you need is a steady hand.
I would love to tell you what I really want to say but I will digress. While I seldom hand weld anymore, I use the orbital a lot. Welding is welding, just because I can push a button and make welds that look like that doesn't mean it is not welding. I worked in a body shop for four years while going to college and used a MIG almost daily. Please don't tell me what I have and have not done when you don't have a clue.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/380210702089...84.m1423.l2649

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After what I have gone through putting an aftermarket header/exhaust systems on my car and the various fitment issues I have experienced over the years, I would offer the following:

Lindsey 3" mild steel system- fitment was reasonably good, and it was a good value all in all. They delivered promptly. Nothing bad to say about the experience.

SFR- worst experience ever. Paid top dollar for a full option system, it took forever for Tim to get it to me and then when I did receive it, the headers were complete garbage. The crossover did NOT fit and will require cutting and reselling to clear the oil pan. The only parts that were good (great, actually) were the Fabspeed exhaust pieces that Tim sent.

Fabspeed- fits great, worth the money if you want to go aftermarket. Just don't buy it from SFR...

FRF- after I (in reality, it was Karl doing the vast majority of the cussing) gave up trying to make the SFR garbage work, it took me about ten months of working with and occasionally having to harass Dave to finally wind up with everything I ordered from him, but Dave was a decent guy to deal with overall. The final finished product fits great, and the only outstanding issue I have with what I got from him had to do with the merge collector on the header, which was substandard in design and could be greatly improved upon.
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We use the AMI product. Pretty much takes all the guess work out of it, but it makes pretty welds.
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All hand welded folks. no orbital was used, no animals were harmed. All made piece by piece using 45' and 90' some trimmed to different degrees.
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Originally Posted by Speed Metal 951
All hand welded folks. no orbital was used, no animals were harmed. All made piece by piece using 45' and 90' some trimmed to different degrees.
Gorgeous job!!! Seriously, very nice welding, rivals that of a machine.
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Good might be an understatement, after looking closely an hour ago at the machine welds, I think yours actually look better. Great job again! Name:  image-789678214.jpg
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Size:  429.4 KB My welder did the above hinge by hand and it looks very nice considering how thick that SS is, but your exhaust is really something special. You should start a business!
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I own a SS process piping business. We run miles of sanitary/process. Looks like we do similar stuff.
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Originally Posted by Speed Metal 951
I own a SS process piping business. We run miles of sanitary/process. Looks like we do similar stuff.
, Nice!

All of that you do by hand? Wouldn't be much easier and faster with an orbital?

I work on ultra high vacuum thin film deposition and etch tools for the semiconductor and data storage industry. We manufacture, install, and service them. Tons and tons of welding involved, especially to facilitate the equipment.
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Originally Posted by URG8RB8
, Nice!

All of that you do by hand? Wouldn't be much easier and faster with an orbital?

I work on ultra high vacuum thin film deposition and etch tools for the semiconductor and data storage industry. We manufacture, install, and service them. Tons and tons of welding involved, especially to facilitate the equipment.
We do have orbital equipment, but we really only use it for pharmaceutical applications. We used to run AMI, then I switched to the Orbitalum stuff. Both good machines.Hey! If you need a Canadian sub-contractor LMK!
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I have not seen the Orbitalum in action but heard about it. German made right? I am sure it is too notch. Could have used you in Toronto last year. We installed a few of these big boys at Ontario Semiconductor. Name:  image-2378032868.jpg
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Originally Posted by URG8RB8
Gorgeous job!!! Seriously, very nice welding, rivals that of a machine.
Seconding this, those welds look incredible. Granted this is coming from someone with a grand total of an hour of TIG time to their name, getting my own machine is on my short list of things to buy but I keep spending all my money on my second cash eating hobby: firearms. Though I have something in the works that will merge that hobby with my future TIG machine:

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