333pg333

.errr....except Norway is governed under a constitutional monarchy....

gruhsy

It's the climate not the government

ehall

Don't confuse the dunce with facts!

mikey_audiogeek

My experience with the Bilsteins is that they become HARSHER with softer spring rates.

Soft springs require the shock to provide more force, which takes a fraction longer and results in a feeling a bit like drivetrain backlash (nothing then CLUNK!).

My experience, YMMV. I run the H&R RSS coilovers.

ehall

That was true my cups due to softer springs than a track set up would take. The Firehawks are significantly softer.

Oddjob

If the contractor was part of a fed/state government, then he might be right...


Thats just a poorly constructed road. No excuse for that kind of buckling. I don't think even a Bilstein shock would last a million miles on that surface!

333pg333

Ha, yes the old Million mile warranty trick....that's the 2nd time I've fallen for that this week!

-Max Smart

odurandina

I guess, if you're a full blown commie, you might think that Norway still has a ways to go before it deserves to be called a socialist country. but just try calling it anything but socialist on Rennlist's Politics and Controversy forum. i realize it's great for business when you call yourself one thing when in fact you are something else, especially when it comes to having a dirty word like SOCIALIST plastered over your method of governance..... surely, we have much of the same bull**** going on over here in the United States with the Obama administration: just call yourself a constitutional Democrat, when in fact, you're a full blown commie.

while it's fun to debate for or against, you can argue that Norway might not be as socialist as an absolute as a few other countries in Europe, but, it's insane, 50~78% tax rates for small businesses and it's radical confiscation of arbitrary wealth certainly make it socialist by any reasonable economic standard.

and to bolster my argument, i'll offer a comparison of the highest tax state in the US: (Communist Massachusetts) to Norway for (two self-employed, real people who actually exist) and comparing gross incomes of $537,000 and their respective taxes pulled right from recent expose in INC. MAGAZINE....

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20110201...nd-norway.html

total income tax including state and federal taxes:

drumroll please:

Massachusetts: $177,000. Norway: $236,000.

the reason I called it a socialist country isn't just because it is, but because that's what my Norwegian neighbors call it;

A GOD DAMNED SOCIALIST COUNTRY, with a damned good socialist propaganda machine.


Why Norway is a BS argument for higher taxes.
by Simon Black

August 1, 2012
Bergen, Norway


Ah, Norway. Government-loving statists love to hold this place up as a shining example that big government and high taxes are good. Free education. Free healthcare. “Happy” people.

Yes, Norway is certainly one of the wealthiest countries in the world on the basis of GDP per capita… and in a variety of international surveys, it also ranks as one of the ‘happiest’.

And yes, Norway is one of the most heavily taxed countries in the world with a total tax burden of roughly 45% of GDP– almost 4x Hong Kong and nearly twice the US.

VAT here is a whopping 25%. Personal income tax rates border 55%. Corporate profits tax ranges from 28% to as high as 78%. Norway even has a direct WEALTH TAX.

This place is about as socialist as it gets. The Norwegian tax authority’s own website even states, “The Norwegian tax system is based on the principle that everybody should pay tax according to their means and receive services according to their needs.”

It’s as if Karl Marx himself wrote the country’s tax policy.

Further, when you step back and look at the Norwegian economy, you’ll see that the state drives nearly all of it. The Norwegian government is the controlling shareholder in 8 out of the top 10 employers in the country– companies like Statoil, DNB, Norsk Hydro, etc.

But since everyone seems to agree that Norwegians are so ‘happy’ and have such a high standard of living, is this central economic planning really so bad?

Let’s first dispel this ‘happy’ nonsense.

It goes without saying that when you ask people who receive generous benefits from the government whether they’re happy, chances are high they’ll say yes.

But Norwegian happiness goes much deeper into human psyche and how we naturally compare ourselves to others in our peer group.

For example, when a childhood friend goes from rags to riches, people often feel extreme envy and reflect negatively on their own comparative lack of success.

Norway has created a system that makes it virtually impossible to pull ahead of your peers financially. People are excused for not working hard and squandering the opportunities they could have grabbed.

Everyone is the same status, and such equality imbues a unique socialist variety of happiness.

This attitude has been deeply inculcated in Norwegian society through what’s known as Jante Law; this is an informal dictate which essentially says ‘You’re only as good as everyone else.’

Consequently, Norwegian culture limits aspirations of achievement. Workers come to the office, punch a clock, shuffle papers, and go home. There is no cultural drive to work hard and get promoted. Work is viewed as what you have to do for 30% of your life, not an opportunity to achieve more and do something that actually matters.

As an example, the office complex across from my hotel room was a ghost town by 5:06pm yesterday afternoon. And work hours in general here have declined steadily over past decades to just 31 hours per week.

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ehall

Nice thread jack!

odb812

Clearly Norway needs to ditch the constitutional monarchy and throw a GM LS motor in there...

ehall

hahahahahahahahaha

Raceboy

OT in:
to odurandina: The country I live now (Estonia) is pretty much like US regarding economic politics (except we have a working healthcare system whereas US pumps money to private hospitals and army) and I have personally been to Norway for many months and still Norway is a much better place to live.

You can keep blabbering about the socialist stuff but Norway does not have national depth and the oil revenues are managed wisely. When the US hits the national depth cealing again, next week? Then the private institution called Federal Reserve will just decide how much more dollar bills they will print, right?

It is sad to see the ignorance when it comes to other living habits. I presume odurandina voted for the "sharp pencil" Romney..

OT out.

s14kev

Who is this odouradina guy? He states that Norway is a socialist economy, is then informed that it is not, then cuts and pastes google search topics to try to give justification for his original statement.

Seems to follow a trend with other posts I have seen from him as well. Especially in regards to anything technical in nature. He often quotes personal opinion as fact and often lacks even rudimentary technical knowledge. I assume keyboard warrior or still a teenager given his poor knowledge and the scantily clad lady as an avatar?

It is however entertaining and I appreciate his presence on the boards. Public ridicule is always amusing. I applaud his colorful presence!

gruhsy

While agreed it's poor engineering....it's the climate that causes the frost heaving in the roads. Come a drive some northern roads up here....if you think those photos are bad you should see some northern Alberta and British Columbia roads. The frost heaves are freakin massive. Not a road for any suspension on a 951

ehall

Nice job Odorificrandia! The o.p. May as well start a new thread so he can at LEAST get his topic back.