mudbuddha

Recently install KWv3 w/ stock TB and really glad I did. Woke the car up. The ride is firmer but very compliant with sure-footed feeling. Mine is a street car so can't comment on track usage. KWv2s or Clubsport version are for track use iirc. Best $$$ I ever spent after wheels/tires/brakes/exhausts/engine/turbo/interior upgrades....

gruhsy

So what is your opinion of the KWv3's for on the street comfort wise?

bebbetufs

Jason. How is the Bilstein Cup setup compared to the KW v3?

jasonlp

At 450 fronts and 650 rears I know when I've driven over a pencil...

Escort Cup is an old technology but simple durable and reliable. If you choose the right springs I'm sure it's not much different. The shock itself will keep you company if your track time becomes an addiction. Lot's of guys spend tones of money on Moton, JRZ and other high end shocks but I say if it's good enough for Tony G it's good enough for most of us.

KW sells you on it's fancy valve technology and multi adjustable shocks but in the end the stock V3's are a pain in the *** to adjust and wont take much abuse.

If your willing spend the coin spring for the Moton Club Sports if not and you want something easy, simple and will get the job done day in and day out, Escort cups.

JET951

After installing all of these options (except ohlins) on customers and our own car my preference are Motons, They are light years ahead of the rest, you have so much control of the spring you can run them with 750-850 springs and they are comfortable on the street. We have a customer with a street only 944 S2 with Motons with 550 springs and its fantastic on the road. On the other end of the scale we are running 1200+ springs on some of the track cars with Motons.

mudbuddha

Actually quite nice on comfort level. The car glides over smaller bump and undulations...so quite compliant. I feel that I gained back or even gaining more traction and was able to put down power sooner. Overall the car remains neutral and not twitchy at the limit. My rear Konis were pretty much shot so this was a big improvement and reduced a lot of the understeer and squatting but yet still neutral.

odb812

Are you using custom valving in these cases? What spring rate have you found the off the shelf valving works best with?

JET951

Using the stock valving with the Motons, They have quite a lot of adjustment, As with what my previous post was saying we have run from 500 for street cars all the way to 1200+ and the shocks can control the springs. They are a fantastic shock and probably priced accordingly. The street car on 500 pound springs runs much smoother then the stock boge and Koni setup. It gets rid of that initial bump they stock setup has while increasing the handling.
Regards
Sean

333pg333

Also a big advantage is having the remote cannisters for ease of adjustment. As mentioned by Jason, adjusting the KWs on the rear for either bump or maybe rebound (can't remember) requires you to drop the rears out...although sounds like Rod/thingo had a special tool made up to over ride this.

ehall

If the car is running properly and not leaking, then there is absolutely NO REASON not to trust a 951 to go 3000 miles on a trip, AT LEAST TWICE! Ask me how I know!

bebbetufs

As much as I would love to I simply cannot justify spending half the price of the car on a set of motons. If I was competing sure, but not for 5 track days a year. The Bilsteins seem ok, but I fear I will have to go quite soft on the springs to make them bearable to and from the track. After all it is quite a long drive and the roads are VERY bad in places. Several sections like this, some up to 8-10 mile long...Heck, the road may well be worse for the shocks than the track. I had to remove the spherical bearings as the road is so bad they developed play after only a couple of drives.

Thom

I was running Moton 3 way adjustable and they proved to be not compliant enough for some of the very bumpy roads I use. I sold them and moved to the KW. The Moton were of course far superior on smooth surface but also far inferior on poor roads, and I really needed the low speed bypass valve system of the KW V3. I can't say I regret my choice.

Raceboy

Have you considered GAZ Gold coilovers? These should have TÜV approval and are a really good bang for the buck: http://gazcoilovers.com/porsche-924-...kit-p-278.html

My friend has used those for years on the Lotus 7 replicas they build and they are very durable. A guy in Holland also put GAZ set (GHA set not Gold) on his turbocharged 924 and was extremely pleased with the comfort and handling improvement.

GHA set costs only ~€550: http://gazcoilovers.com/porsche-924-...kit-p-209.html

ehall

Well, I ran Bilstein Escort Cups for a few years on the road. On really bad bumps, yes they can be pretty rough. However, you could run the bilstein Firehawk set up, which is considerably softer, but was still used in the Firehawk series, on these cars. They are also cheaper and you would keep your T-bars. Personally, when I'm ready to tackle my current suspension, that's where I'll be going. Firehawks are also less expensive than the escort cups. I believe Lindsey Racing still sells them as a complete kit.

odurandina

judging by the picture socialism seems to be taking a heavy toll.

almost as bad as driving in the state of New York.