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Old 01-31-2012, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SirLapsalot
All day to spool? Doesn't it make about peek torque around 3500 RPM? I didn't think that was so bad?
This is as good as you will get. Neat part about the K27/6 is you get max tq close to this turbo, but have another 30ft lbs carried all way to about 6K. Doesn't seem like much, but trust me, it's makes these motors sing.
Old 01-31-2012, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 95ONE
I hope that's an exhaust leak. That thing takes all day to spool.

I think I am understanding that this is NOT a Roque vs Vitesse. But a AFM vs MAF sorta thing. And in that case, good comparison.

Still. A dog of a turbo / lag. I hope the 27/6 changes thing drastically.
Hmm, from reading tons and tons of threads I thought that my spool up seemed in line with other 26/8 cars, and that the 26/6 spooled closer to 3k rpm, and that the relative 27 versions spooled similar depending on the hot side choice.
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Originally Posted by George D
I did not have a K27/8 on any of my 951 cars, but drove a few. The K27/6 is a better match for the 2.5 motor in my opinion.
Ok, I just remembered that you had been in both.
Old 01-31-2012, 11:47 PM
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Can't wait to see the results with the 27/6, so I can dream about when I bolt one into my car!
Old 01-31-2012, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
Nice runs, and write-up
Any Tuning/FQS adjustment on your end Zeff?

Can't wait to see the K27 comparison!
I haven't messed with it at all, it is however it came from when I sent the ecu to you. I'll have to dig in my parts to find the sheet with the different settings, but based on the afr, what would you recommend I do?
Old 01-31-2012, 11:58 PM
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I'd leave it. That is very good right there.
Old 02-01-2012, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeff
I haven't messed with it at all, it is however it came from when I sent the ecu to you. I'll have to dig in my parts to find the sheet with the different settings, but based on the afr, what would you recommend I do?
You could try position #2, which pulls out a little bit of fuel... But really, its a good safe place right where it is.
Old 02-01-2012, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SirLapsalot
All day to spool? Doesn't it make about peek torque around 3500 RPM? I didn't think that was so bad?
Originally Posted by Zeff
Hmm, from reading tons and tons of threads I thought that my spool up seemed in line with other 26/8 cars, and that the 26/6 spooled closer to 3k rpm, and that the relative 27 versions spooled similar depending on the hot side choice.
Compared to other 26/8s Yes, about right.
From the perspective of going through the trouble to replace the turbo, slow for such a low power potential turbo. It looks like boost hits peak around 3600-3700 rpms.

Those were shock value statement on purpose. A bit brutal at first, but curious why you are spending so much time and money on these turbos? What does this turbo cost? $600 and then the one you're planning on replacing it with? Another $600? Labor to replace them twice? My $350 60-1 HiFi turbo hit 22psi at about 100rpm later than your 19psi, but made around 400whp. It felt terribly laggy.

Maybe just spend a bit extra for a Bolt in Vitesse Turbo? Less spool, more horsepower. You now have some awesome tools to tune it with.
Old 02-01-2012, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeff
Vitesse chips made 276/300 Maf made 289/297 both at 15psi
The extra hp no doubt comes largely from the extra 1 psi of boost -- 13psi v. 12psi after peaking at 15psi. One thing I've learned over the years -- more boost generally means more power
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Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
The extra hp no doubt comes largely from the extra 1 psi of boost -- 13psi v. 12psi after peaking at 15psi. One thing I've learned over the years -- more boost generally means more power
Huh...

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Originally Posted by 95ONE
Compared to other 26/8s Yes, about right.
From the perspective of going through the trouble to replace the turbo, slow for such a low power potential turbo. It looks like boost hits peak around 3600-3700 rpms.

Those were shock value statement on purpose. A bit brutal at first, but curious why you are spending so much time and money on these turbos? What does this turbo cost? $600 and then the one you're planning on replacing it with? Another $600? Labor to replace them twice? My $350 60-1 HiFi turbo hit 22psi at about 100rpm later than your 19psi, but made around 400whp. It felt terribly laggy.

Maybe just spend a bit extra for a Bolt in Vitesse Turbo? Less spool, more horsepower. You now have some awesome tools to tune it with.
So what turbo would you suggest? About how much would it cost?
Old 02-01-2012, 02:31 PM
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The boost seems to be coming on slightly late.
On my 1990 with K26/8 and chips less advanced than the Vitesse ones I have full boost a couple of hundred rpm earlier (it's winter here so I can't check exactly how much earlier).

/Dea



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