951's vs. modern
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I know we have a great platform but my question is if we update the underpinnings i.e coilovers, bushings etc. can we exceeed the performance of the modern current cars in handling? Or regardless of what we upgrade are we still 20 years older? Is there no fountain of youth for 951's?
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I was comparing to the outstanding handling of the Honda s2000.
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i love the s2000, but it's no porsche. The s2000 sounds like a BB guin. The 951 sounds raspy, eager to please. It also looks German and has more space in the back. I also don't care for a digital speddo.
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I'm just hopeful that refreshing my fatigued suspension pieces will help be more competitive against a friends S2000 who is 5 sec faster around our local track.
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I dont really understand this question... can you make a 951 faster than an S2000? Sure you can make a 951 faster around a track... add power, add bigger tires, add better suspension... but if all were equal, the S2000 is vastly superior.
I'm no Honda fanboy, but as a function of the engineering and materials available fifteen years after the 951s were envisioned, the chassis of the S2000 is multitudes stiffer; even more importantly, the double wishbone front suspension on a Honda is _dramatically_ more effective than the relatively poor MacPherson strut 951 front end (which my E36 shares). (This is not to say that a MacPherson cannot work well, etc. but there is a reason that at the very highest levels of motorsport, all cars share a double wishbone style front end...)
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I'm no Honda fanboy, but as a function of the engineering and materials available fifteen years after the 951s were envisioned, the chassis of the S2000 is multitudes stiffer; even more importantly, the double wishbone front suspension on a Honda is _dramatically_ more effective than the relatively poor MacPherson strut 951 front end (which my E36 shares). (This is not to say that a MacPherson cannot work well, etc. but there is a reason that at the very highest levels of motorsport, all cars share a double wishbone style front end...)
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Do you have a turbo s or an 89 because the regular turbo is a bus compared to the s. When people compare another cars's handling to a regular turbo its not fair because the regular turbo was set up for comfort and are crap around a track but they make much better daily drivers. They watered down the first turbos to make them appealing for daily consumption but now it is normal for new cars to leave the factory with stiff suspension set up more for the track or have electronic gizmos to offer both. I miss my 87 for those reasons but my 89 is a different car, they are not even comparable around a track.
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I'm sure that refreshing the suspension will make a considerable difference. When I upgraded my '86 951 to M030 suspension it felt like a different car. And in all the right ways.