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Old 10-04-2011, 12:54 PM
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Regarding fuel consumption, the official data from the gas station in Norway tells you to expect a 30% increase in fuel consumption with E85. I live 5 min from a E85 pump, but it's really hard to bring 150L of it in a 944 to the track.
Old 10-04-2011, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KSira
Regarding fuel consumption, the official data from the gas station in Norway tells you to expect a 30% increase in fuel consumption with E85. I live 5 min from a E85 pump, but it's really hard to bring 150L of it in a 944 to the track.
Well yeah there is that! Doesn't the ALM series use E 85?
Old 10-04-2011, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by schip43
Well yeah there is that! Doesn't the ALM series use E 85?
Yes
Old 10-04-2011, 04:01 PM
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Last tank I got 19mpg mostly hwy on E85.
Old 10-04-2011, 04:26 PM
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If you guys are really concerned with mileage you may think about talking to Josh about a custom tune. You may need to delete the o2 sensor, but if you do a lean burn you can dramatically increase in mileage.
Old 10-04-2011, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blown 944
If you guys are really concerned with mileage you may think about talking to Josh about a custom tune. You may need to delete the o2 sensor, but if you do a lean burn you can dramatically increase in mileage.

Blown, we are talking about a smaller margin for error when having a leaner tune is involved, correct?

You want better mileage keep the rpms low and dont boost it too much.
Old 10-04-2011, 09:42 PM
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OK I'm taking about a lean AFR at part throttle and idle. Some of the stuff on my yet to be installed pile, include a piggy back that allows for PT Tracking of AFR's and the newer Zetronixcs O2's allow you to send a leaner AFR to the ECU for PT and idle.

Doesn't change WOT AFR's, that's my understanding? Don't want a economy tune , I know it's not a Smart Car!
Old 10-04-2011, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by carlege
Blown, we are talking about a smaller margin for error when having a leaner tune is involved, correct?

You want better mileage keep the rpms low and dont boost it too much.
not really, it is only under certain circumstances ie; specific rpms,load,etc.

I run mine at around 17-18:1 between 2500 and 3400 rpm at high vacuum. Also there is a bit more timing added.
Old 10-20-2011, 01:42 PM
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Has anyone had to upgrade to a high volume fuel pump when switching to E85?
Old 10-20-2011, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by blown 944
not really, it is only under certain circumstances ie; specific rpms,load,etc.

I run mine at around 17-18:1 between 2500 and 3400 rpm at high vacuum. Also there is a bit more timing added.
OK lean burn between 2500 and 3400 and added timing? I'm not going there (change the timing) but is that part of the chip program or a piggy back? How'd you change the timing?
Old 10-20-2011, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bw993
Has anyone had to upgrade to a high volume fuel pump when switching to E85?
Replace it with a Walbro from Pauer Tuner and call it preventative maintenence. You don't want to find out you have too little fuel too late. Replace the in tank sock filter and the 60* rubber bend that comes off the nipple of the tank filter and goes to the pump.
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Originally Posted by schip43
OK lean burn between 2500 and 3400 and added timing? I'm not going there (change the timing) but is that part of the chip program or a piggy back? How'd you change the timing?
Fortunately for me, I live 20 minutes from the creator of the kit being talked about in this thread. Funny though that when we go tuning we end up closer to Nebraska :-)
Old 10-20-2011, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by blown 944
Fortunately for me, I live 20 minutes from the creator of the kit being talked about in this thread. Funny though that when we go tuning we end up closer to Nebraska :-)
Or in a ditch
Old 10-20-2011, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blown 944
Fortunately for me, I live 20 minutes from the creator of the kit being talked about in this thread. Funny though that when we go tuning we end up closer to Nebraska :-)
Aww gotcha! Wondered why I'd not heard of that, (lean burn + more timing). So it's a kids don't try this at home deal!
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Originally Posted by m73m95
Or in a ditch


HEY..... :-)


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