NZ951

Replacing is probably the right thing to do, and so is a hans device, a 3 layer racesuit, and boots and gloves and it goes on. I guess with safety people just find their comfort zone with what they are happy with. Some want a full fire extinguisher suppression system installed, some are happy with a hand held unit.

ehall

All I know is that if I can take a hit like that, and I could have done more, then MORE is my best friend!

Don't make me post another sheep pic! Lart can't resist those!

NZ951

More it is then

ehall

Oh God, let's hope lart doesn't read that!

NZ951

I meant more safety, not more sheep.



Every main road in NZ looks like this.

ehall

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! I bet the smoke causes massive traffic jams!

Cyberpunky

lol nah you need traffic to have a traffic jam Elliot, and most kiwi's are to busy making smoke

ausgeflippt951

Hey Patrick also just to offer another point of clarification: while I wouldn't have a problem reusing your cage, it should be rigorously inspected for cracks, and any cracks should be welded up.

Good thing your cage isn't heat treated!

Btw that halo seat you just put a pic up of is suuuper sexy. Me gusta.

chrenan

Patrick, been following this thread since the beginning, really sorry to see the bad luck you had but glad you're OK. I run a Halo with cut-outs in my street/track car. It never sees heavy traffic, pleasure use only to the track and back pretty much, but the cut-outs are handy to check blind spots and for reversing. I don't get the sense it is flimsy at all, and once you're in with the HANS on it gives a nice secure feeling.

Chris Prack

Did you solve the droop mystery yet? My initial thought was the shocks are limiting the droop. Easy enough to measure and see exactly what you have. The other thing you should consider is having the shocks dyno'd. I have run more than one set of Moton's on a shock dyno and you would be very surprised at the results. None of the adjustment settings were linear or followed any rhyme or reason for that matter.

Sorry about the car but glad you are okay. Been there myself. Good luck with the rebuild.

333pg333

Definitely Collin. We'll go over the car thoroughly.

I like that Cobra seat and is one I'm definitely considering. Thanks for posting pic and feedback.

Chris, no not yet but that's what the guys here think. We will do all the measuring once stripped down. It doesn't make sense if this will be the case though, unless they sold me the wrong shocks by mistake. I did have them dyno'd and they were described as being pretty good in most readings. I'd have to dig up what was said but they were deemed as sufficient for the task and we could tune around them. Not sure that this covered potential droop issues though.

Chris Prack

Looking at the graph's I would agree they are in pretty good adjustment. They definitely could be tweaked later on. It's great that you have the graph's so you know what you have at least in the positions they ran.

333pg333

We also have the actual data from the suspension pots which is why the engineer is sure it’s to do with the rear droop and lack of shock travel. To counter this it does seem strange looking at the type of constant radius corner and how little I was loading the suspension? Having said that, I was going pretty fast and perhaps there were other mitigating circumstances which when added to the suspension travel caused the sudden loss of traction. Having watched video of a few different tracks I’ve driven on and seeing how it doesn’t convey things like speed and road camber / conditions, I also think that perhaps this might cloud the issue when dissecting the incident off video alone.

Chris Prack

How wide of a tire are you running? What type of tire? Pressures? Any temps? Did I read you are running 1100lb springs on the rear? 900 on the front? And you have no wing?

333pg333

285x650x18” R80 Hoosier slicks 305x650x18” R80s. Don't have temps. Started on 23psi cold. Got to 32psi hot.

Yes, correct re the no wing situation. Of course hindsight is a wonderful thing. The feeling from the engineer was that a wing would solve part of the problem, but it would also mask the cause. To be fair on everyone involved…there has been a few ‘hands’ on this car during the build process. This makes it tricky when the over enthusiastic customer (me) sees the end in sight and pushes for completion just to get back on the track. What we will do this time is sort the suspension out via measuring and then probably install the wing unless we go back to softer springs. My thinking is to get the balance of the car sorted in as ‘naked’ a setup as possible which might disclude the wing. Others, including the wing designer think that while this is a seemingly good idea, in reality you’re better off just sorting the balance out with the aero included. Guess there’s two schools of thought. I suppose if you have the time and money, do both…