carlege

Are our standard belts really more modern in the compounds that they use?

Porsche Timingbelt Via Gates website. Is Neoprene (Developed in 1930)
Nissan Timingbelt (5 year 100k belt) HSN (Highly Saturated Nitrile) (Developed in the 1980s)

Why the hell am i not seeing updated material on our belts?

EVOMMM

hey this is a free market economy if you have the money spend it
if it makes you sleep better go for it I am!!!!
now lets get a group buy and get this rolling

the reason we are hated is because we are free to express our opinions freely and without fear of retaliation other places dont have this luxury

Naplesguy06

Its a conspiracy man,they want our belts to snap so we can buy more overpriced parts.I like the idea of group buy,id buy both belts for 100.00.Times are tough and it aint 2006 anymore,everyones prices need to give a little especially the labor rates of 100.00 per hour-ridiculous!

Travis - sflraver

Nothing on the belt is the same except the shape and size. As for the color, they could have been pink, purple, orange or whatever. I thought blue was nice so you could easily tell it apart.
The teeth are built from "High saturation HNBR elastomeric composites," the tooth jacket incorporates nylon fiber to double tooth strength and of course, the kevlar reinforcement in the belt itself.
So what does this mean? Take your thumb and squeeze the tooth of a standard belt. It squishes down. Push it side to side. It flexes. These do not.

All of my posts here until now were specifically directed toward or to correct Mark. I don't post on every timing belt thread or interrupt conversation with biased product plugs. You guys act like I am on some sort of covert corporate sales mission here.
The people who use the racing belts love them, the people who don't, well.. they complain about them even being available. Since you brought up a year old thread on the 944 board a few hours ago to post your opinion AGAIN, I guess your just a complainer. Haters gonna hate.

slap929

Dont know what the beef is. I would use the kevlar belt and will do so next time around. To each their own.
Haters gonna hate.

carlege

Travis thanks for thowing out what they are made of. This might influence me to go that direction in a couple weeks. Especially because i dont like that fact that Gates continues to manufacture neoprene belts when better material is avaliable

Mike Lindsey

We have been selling the Kevlar timing belt ( we get them from Rennbay ) for about a year now. We use them on every solid lifter engine we build and engines using stiffer then stock valve springs and any other engine the customers asks our opinion on which to use.

It's like rod bearings and other parts where you have a choice for the standard, and for a better part.

Yes, there are some parts where strength or whatever doesn't matter much, such as a hood shock or distributor rotor where there are different brands to choose from. Then there are the important and critical hard working parts of the engine like belts and bearings and those better rods for those runing high boost and rpm.

We are comfortable using a Genuine Porsche rod bearing in a engine, because as far as we know, there isn't anything better. So if it fails, we won't be saying to ourself or the customer, "o well, maybe we should of spent the extra bucks and upgraded from the Glyco's". We used the best at the time. Same applies to this belt. "Should" the belt fail, for whatever reason, we won't be saying the would of, could of, should of's.

You have to go with the best information you have available to make your decisision at any time. If Gates (world leader in belts ) say's it's a better part, we will take them at their word until proven otherwise.

We carry 3 timing belts. Aftermarket, Genuine Porsche in their box (could be a Conti, Gates or other) and the Kevlar. Different prices and assumably quality levels for different customers and their needs and budgets. Just like tires to tennis shoes.

JDS968

Did that kid just **** himself?

Anyway, is there any hope for a 968 Kevlar timing belt? I feel like I'm being left out at the party

V2Rocket

no offense to the rennbay folks or the gates corp but before i spend $100 on a belt, id rather pull my pistons and shave them so they don't interfere anymore...even if it costs more than the $100, it will never again be a problem...

slap929

Yes he did. You can lead a horse to water...

JDS968

Kid looks more like a hippo.

sebastian944

Nobody has said if the Kevlar belt failed on their car yet. So the next question to add to this thread, who here has the Kevlar belt and how many miles are you at? I'm going 1 year 6 months with about 1200 miles total. I'm not going to change it at the 3 year interval since I only drive 800 miles a season on average.

4Runner

I have Kevlar belt from rennbay. Over 2 months / ~4000 miles on it

ehall

I like leather belts.

elargentino

I use a size 36 USN style "web" belt.