330 RWHP, component choices?
05-10-2010, 07:40 PM
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No way the stealth kit "stage 1" or the cheater turbos will make that kind of power i would look for stg 2 or the 3. I have the stage 3 kit and it makes a big difference with that turbo compared to the k26 i had before. Even with the maf 83lbs injectors and 3 bar Fpr the car diddent feel close to what it does with the new turbo.
05-10-2010, 07:49 PM
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No way the stealth kit "stage 1" or the cheater turbos will make that kind of power i would look for stg 2 or the 3. I have the stage 3 kit and it makes a big difference with that turbo compared to the k26 i had before. Even with the maf 83lbs injectors and 3 bar Fpr the car diddent feel close to what it does with the new turbo.
Adonay, at what rpm are you hitting 15 psi?
05-11-2010, 02:45 AM
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330RWHP is nothing and can easily be done with a K27/6 turbo, test pipe, increased fuel pressure, chips, and a piggy back fuel controller.
A good wastegate and boost controller is a must... and the Tial 46mm is the best.
You want the turbo that will whip the soonest and still get you the power you want.
The K27/6 is hard to beat at that power level and is probably the least expensive as well. I would suggest you get dyno charts of thecar using the turbo you're contemplating to use, in the power range you want, and post them here. Then we can over lay them to see which one provides the quickest spool while supporting the power level you're looking for.
TonyG
A good wastegate and boost controller is a must... and the Tial 46mm is the best.
You want the turbo that will whip the soonest and still get you the power you want.
The K27/6 is hard to beat at that power level and is probably the least expensive as well. I would suggest you get dyno charts of thecar using the turbo you're contemplating to use, in the power range you want, and post them here. Then we can over lay them to see which one provides the quickest spool while supporting the power level you're looking for.
TonyG
05-11-2010, 06:10 AM
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Isn't it funny the different whp you get from country to country. My friend's Stage 3 VR kit gets about 270whp at 1 bar down here. Car pulls really well from 3000rpm up to redline so there's nothing wrong with it. He's just behind GT3s too, just different dyno's I guess.
05-11-2010, 08:13 AM
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330RWHP is nothing and can easily be done with a K27/6 turbo, test pipe, increased fuel pressure, chips, and a piggy back fuel controller.
A good wastegate and boost controller is a must... and the Tial 46mm is the best.
You want the turbo that will whip the soonest and still get you the power you want.
The K27/6 is hard to beat at that power level and is probably the least expensive as well. I would suggest you get dyno charts of thecar using the turbo you're contemplating to use, in the power range you want, and post them here. Then we can over lay them to see which one provides the quickest spool while supporting the power level you're looking for.
TonyG
A good wastegate and boost controller is a must... and the Tial 46mm is the best.
You want the turbo that will whip the soonest and still get you the power you want.
The K27/6 is hard to beat at that power level and is probably the least expensive as well. I would suggest you get dyno charts of thecar using the turbo you're contemplating to use, in the power range you want, and post them here. Then we can over lay them to see which one provides the quickest spool while supporting the power level you're looking for.
TonyG
The problem with the K27/6 (or 8) is that they are hard to find and sending in av K26/8 to get it to a K27/8 is not that much cheaper than getting the SFR turbo.
One of the problems is to actually get info from someone using the K27/6 or 8
or the SFR hybrids so I haven't got any charts to show.
/Dea
05-11-2010, 08:16 AM
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The problem with the K27/6 (or 8) is that they are hard to find and sending in av K26/8 to get it to a K27/8 is not that much cheaper than getting the SFR turbo.
One of the problems is to actually get info from someone using the K27/6 or 8
or the SFR hybrids so I haven't got any charts to show.
/Dea
One of the problems is to actually get info from someone using the K27/6 or 8
or the SFR hybrids so I haven't got any charts to show.
/Dea
OR just go to Vitesse and get an integrated system, from the get go.
It's a no brainer.
05-11-2010, 08:20 AM
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05-11-2010, 08:41 AM
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If you want in the 300-330rwhp, we are bout to release a new turbo (will be a Stage 1). It will provide good performance and is competitively priced. If you are not in a rush, you might wait a couple of weeks for the release.
05-11-2010, 08:47 AM
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Isn't it funny the different whp you get from country to country. My friend's Stage 3 VR kit gets about 270whp at 1 bar down here. Car pulls really well from 3000rpm up to redline so there's nothing wrong with it. He's just behind GT3s too, just different dyno's I guess.
Even in the US, a Mustang dyno will read differently than a DynoJet, than (fill the blank with the different dynos). Even similar brand dynos will give slightly different results.
The dyno is great for tuning and for a before and after comparison. The shape of the power band is more important than the actual numbers..
05-11-2010, 04:05 PM
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How much power is the K26/8 original turbo good for?
A Vitesse kit would be great, the reasons for not going with that as my first choice is the $ to SEK ratio and the Swedish 25% VAT which makes these kits a bit expensive
The Stage 1 kit (actually the Stealth kit and will be renamed as such) is not designed to support 330rwhp. The Stealth based on K26/8 turbo could make the power, but you will need to run higher boost. The Stealth kits were designed to increase the power to around 300rwhp. Enough power to give someone the edge but keep the factory look.
If you want in the 300-330rwhp, we are bout to release a new turbo (will be a Stage 1). It will provide good performance and is competitively priced. If you are not in a rush, you might wait a couple of weeks for the release.
If you want in the 300-330rwhp, we are bout to release a new turbo (will be a Stage 1). It will provide good performance and is competitively priced. If you are not in a rush, you might wait a couple of weeks for the release.
/Dea
05-11-2010, 06:03 PM
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The Stage 1 kit (actually the Stealth kit and will be renamed as such) is not designed to support 330rwhp. The Stealth based on K26/8 turbo could make the power, but you will need to run higher boost. The Stealth kits were designed to increase the power to around 300rwhp. Enough power to give someone the edge but keep the factory look.
If you want in the 300-330rwhp, we are bout to release a new turbo (will be a Stage 1). It will provide good performance and is competitively priced. If you are not in a rush, you might wait a couple of weeks for the release.
If you want in the 300-330rwhp, we are bout to release a new turbo (will be a Stage 1). It will provide good performance and is competitively priced. If you are not in a rush, you might wait a couple of weeks for the release.
The additional power ain't worth the lag. If people are willing to deal with the lag of a ~8 turbine, they might as well go to something bigger and get it over with...
The beauty of the K27/6 is the balance of price & quick boost. It just happens to support the 325RWHP range.
Why don't you do a custom compressor capable of supporting 330RWHP on a KKK~6 turbine? That would be the setup.
TonyG