951s LS1?
04-11-2009, 01:44 AM
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See buddy, from that point of view were out for the same thing... For me its smoking them with my baster child SQUARED... LOL... I cant wait to hve my car done ( will be years down the road) and sit it out front of the show room with the hood open 
ITs gonna **** off the purists... See, in the end its all for the same goal. Like i said before, I would not hesitate to help a single person on here with anything from a 924 2.0 to a 968 3.0... I know more about some models than others, but always willing to learn and make some friends...
Mark
ITs gonna **** off the purists... See, in the end its all for the same goal. Like i said before, I would not hesitate to help a single person on here with anything from a 924 2.0 to a 968 3.0... I know more about some models than others, but always willing to learn and make some friends...Mark
We are going for very similar things, I just disagree because I feel keeping it pure bred drives that hood open at the Dealer idea home even more. I should be doing that by fall hopefully. Will be dialed in 100% soon. Then on to a 968 ts. Ill be purchasing a garage queen collector of some sort eventually. Cant decide between a slantnose 930, or a ferrari 328 gts. Whichever seems like it will appreciate more. My 944/68's will be daily drivers. The collector just for collecting/investing.
04-11-2009, 01:52 AM
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A v8 isnt a bastard its a mutt. We are going for very similar things, I just disagree because I feel keeping it pure bred drives that hood open at the Dealer idea home even more. I should be doing that by fall hopefully. Will be dialed in 100% soon. Then on to a 968 ts. Ill be purchasing a garage queen collector of some sort eventually. Cant decide between a slantnose 930, or a ferrari 328 gts. Whichever seems like it will appreciate more. My 944/68's will be daily drivers. The collector just for collecting/investing.
We are going for very similar things, I just disagree because I feel keeping it pure bred drives that hood open at the Dealer idea home even more. I should be doing that by fall hopefully. Will be dialed in 100% soon. Then on to a 968 ts. Ill be purchasing a garage queen collector of some sort eventually. Cant decide between a slantnose 930, or a ferrari 328 gts. Whichever seems like it will appreciate more. My 944/68's will be daily drivers. The collector just for collecting/investing.Mark
04-11-2009, 01:55 AM
#168
My 3.0 is all 944. Do your homework. Well, my crank is 968, but the same parts bin. You making those comments is going out on a limb. Seems your 944/68 history/knowledge aint so good. Im all porsche baby. As Ive said to each there own. Ive dealt with renegade hybrids, they can never stop talking about how crappy our engines are. Mostly cause they wanna sell kits. Go ahead molest whats left of our cars. Please try to do an 86' at least. As Ive said to each there own. Seems you have a personal problem. Thats too bad. People come here all the time and **** on our engines, say they suck. Its a constant battle for our cars because they have "puny" 4 bangers. People like you are always ****ting on them. I dont go to a porsche forum to hear people **** on our engines, and try to convince us the V8's are the end all be all. If I wanted that Id be on the hybrid forum. So dont come at me like, i went looking for trouble, I suppose we should just keep quiet while our cars get bashed. In our own forum. Well guess what? Aint gonna happen. 3.0 OWNZ. ALL PORSCHE, SUCKAS. What? Ive had to listen to V8 guys bash our cars for years on rennlist. Not allowed to do the same?
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tone3721, 3.0, Alusil, 104mm, 88, mahle, 2.7, LR, stock(951), VR3
So your crank is not 951, your block is not 951, your pistons is not 951, your rods are not 951, your head does not belong on a 951.
My Porsche knowledge is perfectly intact, never mind spending the last 12 years working on them every day of my freakin life. for a living, forget about all the factory training I had to go to, I have forgotten more about Porsches then you could ever possibly learn, Never mind that.
Let me clarify something, I said our 2.5 engine suck overall, I did not say I hated it and cant wait to do an ls swap, did I superman? I said the ls is a better engine overall. I dont molest our cars, lets put it this way, by the time I see our cars they are already molested, hacked and in poor general shape in the 1st place, Not all, but most, and I am sure if I inspected your car right now, I would find a million and one things wrong, or done wrong, it wouldnt be funny, Mr Porsche would jump out of his grave and kick your ****!! And you would go home feeling like a little school girl, do you want to test my knowledge? I am up for it anytime, bring your car by the shop, I hope your fragile ego can take it!!
When did I **** on our cars? Hell, I own 2 of them. If you got a problem with renegade, deal with renegade. Dont attack people just because they want to do an ls swap.
Now to compare 3.0 turbo to a N/A ls is wrong also. take your turbo off, or put a turbo on the ls, and run the identical boost levels. I am sure you would be in for a rude awakening.
Let me just state this again, I am not hating the 951, I love my 88 951 s, and it will stay a turbo 4. I may also upgrade to a 3.0. So do not make me out to be bashing our cars.
Semper fi
Last edited by fastmover; 04-11-2009 at 06:58 PM. Reason: I meant 951, as someone pointed out.
04-11-2009, 02:04 AM
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04-11-2009, 02:09 AM
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Really your engine is all 944? I guess my Porsche knowledge is lacking huh?
tone3721, 3.0, Alusil, 104mm, 88, mahle, 2.7, LR, stock(951), VR3
So your crank is not 944, your block is not 944, your pistons is not 944, your rods are not 944, your head does not belong on a 951.
My Porsche knowledge is perfectly intact, never mind spending the last 12 years working on them every day of my freakin life. for a living, forget about all the factory training I had to go to, I have forgotten more about Porsches then you could ever possibly learn, Never mind that.
Let me clarify something, I said our 2.5 engine suck overall, I did not say I hated it and cant wait to do an ls swap, did I superman? I said the ls is a better engine overall. I dont molest our cars, lets put it this way, by the time I see our cars they are already molested, hacked and in poor general shape in the 1st place, Not all, but most, and I am sure if I inspected your car right now, I would find a million and one things wrong, or done wrong, it wouldnt be funny, Mr Porsche would jump out of his grave and kick your ****!! And you would go home feeling like a little school girl, do you want to test my knowledge? I am up for it anytime, bring your car by the shop, I hope your fragile ego can take it!!
When did I **** on our cars? Hell, I own 2 of them. If you got a problem with renegade, deal with renegade. Dont attack people just because they want to do an ls swap.
Now to compare 3.0 turbo to a N/A ls is wrong also. take your turbo off, or put a turbo on the ls, and run the identical boost levels. I am sure you would be in for a rude awakening.
Let me just state this again, I am not hating the 951, I love my 88 951 s, and it will stay a turbo 4. I may also upgrade to a 3.0. So do not make me out to be bashing our cars.
Semper fi
tone3721, 3.0, Alusil, 104mm, 88, mahle, 2.7, LR, stock(951), VR3
So your crank is not 944, your block is not 944, your pistons is not 944, your rods are not 944, your head does not belong on a 951.
My Porsche knowledge is perfectly intact, never mind spending the last 12 years working on them every day of my freakin life. for a living, forget about all the factory training I had to go to, I have forgotten more about Porsches then you could ever possibly learn, Never mind that.
Let me clarify something, I said our 2.5 engine suck overall, I did not say I hated it and cant wait to do an ls swap, did I superman? I said the ls is a better engine overall. I dont molest our cars, lets put it this way, by the time I see our cars they are already molested, hacked and in poor general shape in the 1st place, Not all, but most, and I am sure if I inspected your car right now, I would find a million and one things wrong, or done wrong, it wouldnt be funny, Mr Porsche would jump out of his grave and kick your ****!! And you would go home feeling like a little school girl, do you want to test my knowledge? I am up for it anytime, bring your car by the shop, I hope your fragile ego can take it!!
When did I **** on our cars? Hell, I own 2 of them. If you got a problem with renegade, deal with renegade. Dont attack people just because they want to do an ls swap.
Now to compare 3.0 turbo to a N/A ls is wrong also. take your turbo off, or put a turbo on the ls, and run the identical boost levels. I am sure you would be in for a rude awakening.
Let me just state this again, I am not hating the 951, I love my 88 951 s, and it will stay a turbo 4. I may also upgrade to a 3.0. So do not make me out to be bashing our cars.
Semper fi
Not bashing? Well at least your an enthusiast.
Im not superman, there is always someone faster, and badder. You have no idea about my build. Where is this oh so almighty shop? Im sure my builder would like to know your bad mouthing his work. Cuz his is top notch. Your arrogance and ignorance its obvious when your tout that ****. You have no idea who built my engine, and what kind of work they do. Much less what I know, or will eventually know.
You got issues.
04-11-2009, 02:14 AM
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Damn this is getting heated. I'd buy everyone a round if I could. We all love these cars guys. I know I do. I love all cars, v8's or turbo 4 it don't make any difference. I can find something great about all of it. I do think that sometimes because we love them and are passionate we fail to see others perspective.
Personally my boost has been kept at 16-17psi since i've been home. I was really thinking about pushing the boost level some and doing some neat things with E-85 and who knows maybe I will someday. For now I want my motor to last because im directing all of my attention(i.e. money) to other parts of the car. What would that extra boost and race fuel/e-85 get me?? Maybe 60-80 more hp? At what cost to the life of the motor? I just don't see it as worth it.
If you are looking for outright power one will find a real tough time argueing against a LS swap. For me im not after outright power, if I was I would have dropped in the LS2 I got. Instead thats going to a track car down the road. I love the feeling of boost and the sounds this car makes. Hell I just love this ****ing car. I don't think I could bring myself to ever get rid of it. Why can't we have our cake and eat it too?
btw gabe. Car should be much better sorted when you see it next month. By July its going to be 80% there. I just can't wait for the new paint job, wing, mirrors, side skirts, splitter to be fitted. God its going to look great! I Look forward to you seeing it again soon. I want to have a "simulated" run against your turbo S.
Personally my boost has been kept at 16-17psi since i've been home. I was really thinking about pushing the boost level some and doing some neat things with E-85 and who knows maybe I will someday. For now I want my motor to last because im directing all of my attention(i.e. money) to other parts of the car. What would that extra boost and race fuel/e-85 get me?? Maybe 60-80 more hp? At what cost to the life of the motor? I just don't see it as worth it.
If you are looking for outright power one will find a real tough time argueing against a LS swap. For me im not after outright power, if I was I would have dropped in the LS2 I got. Instead thats going to a track car down the road. I love the feeling of boost and the sounds this car makes. Hell I just love this ****ing car. I don't think I could bring myself to ever get rid of it. Why can't we have our cake and eat it too?
btw gabe. Car should be much better sorted when you see it next month. By July its going to be 80% there. I just can't wait for the new paint job, wing, mirrors, side skirts, splitter to be fitted. God its going to look great! I Look forward to you seeing it again soon. I want to have a "simulated" run against your turbo S.
04-11-2009, 02:31 AM
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LOL just go back to the garage, put that pos engine back together and quit picking fights will ya!!! LOL see ya Monday.
04-11-2009, 02:46 AM
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04-11-2009, 02:57 AM
#177
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Eh wrong! 944s2 block, 944 head, mahle pistons(968 ts oem), yeah the crank is from a 968, same as 944s2 cranks - about 5 lbs. All 924/944/928/968 parts bin. Different years, same pedigree.
Not bashing? Well at least your an enthusiast.
Im not superman, there is always someone faster, and badder. You have no idea about my build. Where is this oh so almighty shop? Im sure my builder would like to know your bad mouthing his work. Cuz his is top notch. Your arrogance and ignorance its obvious when your tout that ****. You have no idea who built my engine, and what kind of work they do. Much less what I know, or will eventually know.
You got issues.
Not bashing? Well at least your an enthusiast.
Im not superman, there is always someone faster, and badder. You have no idea about my build. Where is this oh so almighty shop? Im sure my builder would like to know your bad mouthing his work. Cuz his is top notch. Your arrogance and ignorance its obvious when your tout that ****. You have no idea who built my engine, and what kind of work they do. Much less what I know, or will eventually know.
You got issues.
On this one I'll have to interject....
FastMover (GABE) knows his ****...to the 10th degree and then some. His shop is in NC and his work is well documented on this board. He is actually getting another car delivered there in about 6 weeks for some work....although I have yet to tell him about it :P
04-11-2009, 03:00 AM
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Tone,
On this one I'll have to interject....
FastMover (GABE) knows his ****...to the 10th degree and then some. His shop is in NC and his work is well documented on this board. He is actually getting another car delivered there in about 6 weeks for some work....although I have yet to tell him about it :P
On this one I'll have to interject....
FastMover (GABE) knows his ****...to the 10th degree and then some. His shop is in NC and his work is well documented on this board. He is actually getting another car delivered there in about 6 weeks for some work....although I have yet to tell him about it :P
04-11-2009, 03:06 AM
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Tone,
On this one I'll have to interject....
FastMover (GABE) knows his ****...to the 10th degree and then some. His shop is in NC and his work is well documented on this board. He is actually getting another car delivered there in about 6 weeks for some work....although I have yet to tell him about it :P
On this one I'll have to interject....
FastMover (GABE) knows his ****...to the 10th degree and then some. His shop is in NC and his work is well documented on this board. He is actually getting another car delivered there in about 6 weeks for some work....although I have yet to tell him about it :P
04-11-2009, 04:58 AM
#180
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edit: I guess, the 997 tt would come closest by the numbers.(480bhp) Outweighs me by a few hundred pounds too IIRC. Im expecting low 400's @ the wheels. On pump gas, with a bit more room to breath on pump gas. Ill know for sure when we dyno tune.
Last edited by tone3721; 04-11-2009 at 05:43 AM.