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Old 03-22-2009, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by guards red 951
I will be running 1.5-1.8bar of boost, becouse of a "small" 57mm SFR Dual BB turbo, P-trim wheel.. I think 8's would be best for me... but BPR8ES or BR8ES?
You will be pleasantly surprised with that turbo. I would not be afraid to run it up to 25 psi regularly. I have that particular size on right now (smaller turbine wheel) and run it that high daily, well lately probably ~23 but have ran it to 25 too.

This is all with the stock IC and for shorter bursts though so...
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Originally Posted by gregeast
Thanks for the enlightenment
No problem


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Old 03-22-2009, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by blown 944
This is all with the stock IC and for shorter bursts though so...
For short bursts, the stock IC does a pretty good job. Remind me sometime to show you a log of post-IC intake temps sometime...


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Consider yourself reminded Josh

In general I find that cold start with E85 even in pretty warm Sydney outside temps, can be a little bit rough for a couple of mins. Makes me think if I have any problems running both types of fuel map (as you know I'm intending) then perhaps I could swap out plugs depending on fuel? So we're running those new inj and if there is still any cold start issues on pump perhaps this could be the answer?
Sorta like fine tuning suspension with tyre pressure after you've done the main stuff with springs and sways?
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how about NGK B8egv?
it seems that many recommends these to tuned engines
Old 03-22-2009, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
With that much boost, what fuel and what is the cars use?


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I'm gonna use E-85, and car will be used in drifting!

well, I dont know yet how much boost, because the tuning, using rototest, is on april 8'th..

blown 944: thats nice, I'm really exited too see how this turbo will work spool up and responce should be ALOT better then last year!!


a few pics before I update my project tread. they are a couple of week old!






I will give you updated spec and pictures of my car after its been tuned on the rototest...
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FYI your project is at the top of my list
Old 03-22-2009, 01:16 PM
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dear lord thats a big IC. nice intake!
Old 03-22-2009, 02:31 PM
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Thanks

a little OT, but I have to ask you guys from the states.
is it leagal to have fuel lines inside the car and how is it regarding E-85? It is leagal here in Norway, as long as lines go as "one piece", no fittings..

some people says E85+steel braided lines=not good.. but it looks like everybody does anyway. that includes me!

here is how I've done it.



brake lines here.





is this good enough angle, I was thinking since its gravity feed.. shouldn't be a problem? and how is the stock fuel tank inside? is it diffrent rooms, or is it just one big 80l hole? please answear.


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Always a pleasure to see your car again Love how much room that intake gives your turbo. What do you think will be your effective rpm range?
Did you run your lines internally just to avoid any possible damage? Why would there be an issue with E85 and s/s?
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thanks
I think my effective rpm range will be between 3000-6500rpm..? It's hard to tell.. I'm looking forward to see the result after the car has been on the rototest. should be pretty damn good response with the spec of this engine!!
yes, I have my fuel lines internally to avoid damage, my car is pretty low
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I have 8's with E85 in my car is it has a hard time starting whenever it's cold outside, or even chilly. The 8's were chosen when I was still running normal gasoline so I'm planning to switch back to 7's in hopes to get better cold starts. With 94 octane normal gas it starts perfect in all temperature with the 8's so I'm pretty sure a hotter plug will solve that issue.
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Nice work on that car, looks like it would be a blast to drive.

As for E-85 and steel braided lines....I have not see one substantial issue with use any new rubber lined hose. With old hoses the E85 will tend to "clean up" the inside of hoses which can break pieices of rubber or any deposits from the insides of the lines and give you car a stroke.

Steel braided or simple rubber fuel hose, as long as it is new and has the correct rating then it's fine for E85.


Originally Posted by guards red 951
Thanks

a little OT, but I have to ask you guys from the states.
is it leagal to have fuel lines inside the car and how is it regarding E-85? It is leagal here in Norway, as long as lines go as "one piece", no fittings..

some people says E85+steel braided lines=not good.. but it looks like everybody does anyway. that includes me!

here is how I've done it.



brake lines here.





is this good enough angle, I was thinking since its gravity feed.. shouldn't be a problem? and how is the stock fuel tank inside? is it diffrent rooms, or is it just one big 80l hole? please answear.


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I'm pretty sure the tank is just open. The pump setup looks fine too me.

You will have no problems with ss hoses. Honestly there isn't any problem with rubber either unless it is 20 y/o old and crap.
Old 03-23-2009, 01:14 AM
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the apparent harmonic magic of long inlet runners rarley works under 3500 rpm at with time most things are on boost so its completely redundant
is the spark plug stuff on the first page ??


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