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Dyno results for Georges car-529WHP @ 23.4 psi

Old 06-19-2008, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ballistic
We need to set up a meet @ SFR sometime... would love to see this monster in person!
I'm up for Hoe-Down @ SFR.

Hey Tim, why not have a little meet-n-greet some time. I would like to meet some of the locals.
Old 06-19-2008, 12:29 PM
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BTW – small technical note ! – George’s car is using the new Electromotive TecGT. It’s a great product for our cars, a smaller box and wiring harness from the Tec3r (because it doesn’t have all the unneeded drivers to run all the cylinders we don’t have! – the Tec3r will run up to 12 cylinders…)
New user interface too – much nicer looking.
OK, back to the thread…..
Old 06-19-2008, 01:50 PM
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Looks good. What A R hotside is that? It seems You could use a smaller one espeacialy if you are not going to run as much boost as you did. Either way I am happy to see that it came together.

This also answers some questions about what the limit is I am going to hit with 83lb injectors in my car, and the current turbo I am running which has an almost identical compressor wheel.

Good job guys.
Old 06-19-2008, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris White
BTW – small technical note ! – George’s car is using the new Electromotive TecGT. It’s a great product for our cars, a smaller box and wiring harness from the Tec3r (because it doesn’t have all the unneeded drivers to run all the cylinders we don’t have! – the Tec3r will run up to 12 cylinders…)
New user interface too – much nicer looking.
OK, back to the thread…..
How does the price of the GT compare to the 3r?
Old 06-19-2008, 01:59 PM
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Yes. It worked well Chris. At the higher boost pressures it needs a little tuning in the midrange but I didnt bother since everytime I adjust the fuel pressure upwards, I needed to re-tune it and since I kept rasing the pressure it was a losing battle.Upto 18 psi though everything is absolutely perfect which is where the car will be set-up for George when he takes it.
Old 06-19-2008, 02:01 PM
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The hotside is a .58. We really can't run a smaller hotside with this turbo. The turbo is a on the large side, but seems to work fairly well on this motor. For track days, this is the turbo though. Being able to get this kind of power at low boost levels makes things run cool and should give consistent power. I didn't want a high boost-high heat setup. Heat soak sucks and is a common issue out here in our 100+ degree summers.

These runs were done with 117 degree intake temps. I'm sure that a nice 50 degree day would have shown a bit more power.
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[QUOTE=Tms951;5526717]Looks good. What A R hotside is that? It seems You could use a smaller one espeacialy if you are not going to run as much boost as you did. Either way I am happy to see that it came together.


.58A/R. Down from the .70 A/R that we had on there before. Otherwise you would have seen a super duperlaggy 500WHP at 16-17 psi 944turbo. LOL
Old 06-19-2008, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris White
BTW – small technical note ! – George’s car is using the new Electromotive TecGT. It’s a great product for our cars, a smaller box and wiring harness from the Tec3r (because it doesn’t have all the unneeded drivers to run all the cylinders we don’t have! – the Tec3r will run up to 12 cylinders…)
New user interface too – much nicer looking.
OK, back to the thread…..
Any more info on this, Chris?
Old 06-19-2008, 02:30 PM
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There is a .50 hotside avail from T-netics IIRC.

I was wondering myself if anyone has seen ANY difference in spoolup between the .58 and the .50?

I am contemplating buying the .50 for the current car and would appreciate any info. (sorry for the highjack)
Old 06-19-2008, 03:52 PM
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wow crazy numbers! The curve is very impressive indeed.

its a 3.0ltr?
Old 06-19-2008, 04:36 PM
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The motor is a 968 block based 3.0 motor. The builder has been building these motors and other blown motors for a long time. Garrity used to teach the 951 engine building class for PCA. We sent the block to http://www.uschrome.com/nicom_ds.html for Nicom plating in the cylinder walls. We used Ross Racing forged pistons that were built to our specifications for this application. We also used forged Oliver rods built to our specifications. The crank was a new 968 unit that was lightened and balanced. Garrity's machine work was really nice.

We installed oil squirters and some other things. One interesting thing that Garrity did, that I wasn't too keen with was he used a 3MM cometic gasket to allow the pistons to come out of the top of the block just a tad. He told me he gets a much better rod angle, and better overall performance. He told me that this allows more boost without being as detonation prone. The head is a mildly worked 2.7 NA with factory 951 exhaust valves and big intake valves. We are also using a new ground STOCK 951 cam. I didn't see the need for solid lifters, as I felt Tim's headers would get the power up high and didn't want the mainteniance issues with solid lifters and aggressive cam.

Guess he is right, as Tim could not get the car to ping. Ran 18psi on 91 fuel with no issues. You can't use anything other than a 3mm gasket, or you will have pistons contacting the the head.

Tim did all the tuning, turbo work, exhaust, headers, intake, tb, TEC GT install, and many other things. Much money, time, and one year it's finally done.

I'll get the suspension and other things done myself. The *** is squatting fairly badly with the Koni Sports and 968TS torsion bar. Going to install the KW 3 suspension.


Originally Posted by porshhhh951
wow crazy numbers! The curve is very impressive indeed.

its a 3.0ltr?
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Congrates on the hp! Looks and sounds great.
Old 06-19-2008, 04:38 PM
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Are you the dash guy?
Originally Posted by 1303RS
Congrates on the hp! Looks and sounds great.
Old 06-19-2008, 05:18 PM
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Congrats, nice results! I know you've been waiting a long time for that engine George. And a lot invested.. Hope this makes it all worth it!
Old 06-19-2008, 05:54 PM
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I'm driving it from San Diego to Tucson tomorrow. It's about a six hour drive. Glad to finally have it coming home. It's been a yearin the making.

George

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