DDP

You're not even drinking this time and you can't come up with better attacks. You not only have made every rennlister here hate you, you can't even defend yourself in any way.

And you're right, I should just give throw away my engineering degree, it's all for nothing.



P.S.- it's level 12 Pokemon.

Driftomagnifico

Lart loves me and that's all that counts.

NZ951

Thanks mate, coming along... its all about doing it in stage at the moment. Got the turbos sorted now which is the hard decision bit. Just working out where to put the WI fuild tank now

333pg333

I think he's been drinking too much of that 10w/30 M1 that he cherishes so much. I guess you can't drink the 25w/60 that we use, that's needs a knife and fork!!

Driftomagnifico

JE_951

jesus christ. stop the pissing match. Im 19 y/o am and sick of it. This is an incredible project and everyone should be excited to see it happen.

Hope all goes well with the build. there better be tonz of vids when finished! this will be one BAD *** ride!!!

Methanol will not be a bad idea. those intake temps will likely need to be lowered. I am wondering what turbo you will be using too. you willing to share the specs?

ausgeflippt951

lmao I post on this thread and come back 15 min later to see progress of "the debate" and the thread's already gained TWO FULL PAGES in length since my absence.

...and not a single post in these two added pages has been worth my reading

On behalf of all of us squabblers out there, my apologies evil 944t for sheiting all over your thread.


........I recommend (just my humble opinion, mind) starting a whole new thread when you post pics

Porschefile

It's really as simple as this, AFAIK, not a single person on this thread or in the 951 world (except supposedly Scott Gomes, who knows without dyno sheets or some kind of proof) has ever built a 944/951/968 motor to the level of horsepower we're talking about here. So in that regard, everyone's all talk 'til we see some numbers. Get over yourselves. Make fun of the Japanese car community all some of you want to but, a street 951 has yet to even break 600whp, let alone a full on dyno queen motor making 1000whp(that we know of). Just FYI but, there are several models of Japanese 4 cylinders that have surpassed the 1000whp mark back in the late 80's and early 90's. I honestly wonder how many here have actually stepped outside of Rennlist and checked out what other communities have accomplished. Everyone just chill out, and have a little humility because 1000whp is coming about 2 decades too late. How about seeing something from someone else's perspective. Coming from other car communities that have accomplished a whole hell of a lot more, it gets pretty damn old hanging around a group that can't look down on those other communities enough. I've actually grown to hate this community in some ways because of the arrogance. Jesus. I decided to quit my project and will likely sell my 951 (as much as I love it) because the closed-minded attitude around here drives me nuts. No wonder not much has progressed in this community after a few decades.

David, I'm glad someone is trying to push the limits. I wish you the best of luck. Some of my opinions may differ a bit from yours but, that's what makes cars interesting. After speaking with you in the past, it sounds like you certainly have the skills to get the job done.

Oh, NZ951, actually the Gt42r&Gt42rs were the basis for the HKS T51r KAI & SPL (SPL being similar to the 42rs). They are a similar size frame and the wheels are also similar in size, although HKS' are of course proprietary and a bit different. The Gt45 series has significantly larger wheels!

NZ951

Hmmmm HKS Japan told me the GT45 was the basis, maybe I got the new guy. And actually when my mate got his (KAI) rebuilt he got the GT45 cartridge... hmmm

333pg333

Well the funny thing is on this one Trav, it was going along ok until Drifto started leaving his skidmarks all over the place. If you go back and read the posts you will see in fact there is little basis for an argument here. People have actually jumped the gun. As if preparing for some confrontation, they start hurling barbs themselves just to get on with it. As far as the tech side of this thread not much has actually been discussed so really not a lot to get all defensive over. I don't think anyone is arguing the merits of our cars over any other make either, nor are they disagreeing with the advancements made by the Japanese cars. So really not even a storm in a teacup...

Porschefile

Oops, almost forgot. 1000whp? I'm guessing a Gt42rs (gt4202) with either a 1.01a/r or 1.15a/r exhaust housing and about 40-45psi.

Porschefile

Ask and ye shall receive :

T51R KAI -
Comp. Wheel: 56trim, 70.3mm(Ind.)/94mm(Exd.)
Turbine: 76trim, 82mm(Ind.)/71.4mm(Exd.)


GT4294R -
Comp. Wheel: 56trim, 70.3mm(Ind.)/94mm(Exd.)
Turbine: 84trim, 82mm(Ind.), Exducer unlisted


The SPL and 42rs are similarly sized:
T51R SPL
GT4202 (42RS)

Porschefile

Uhhh, the only other thing I have to say is people around here aren't too open to suggestions from "outside". Obviously individuals such as myself and Drifto (well he's a jerk but, I've learned to live with it ) aren't part of the Ivy League 951 tuning society. You don't have to be a rocket scientist or motor builder for half a century to understand at least some of the dynamics involved in constructing motors of this nature. Actually, I'd say a significant part of it really boils down to common sense when you think about it. I'm not claiming any of us knows it all or anything. In the past, I've tried to offer an open-minded insight and give people some ideas from my experience in communities that have already achieved what some are attempting to do here. So what if I haven't built a 1000whp motor myself. Does that mean my ideas have any less merit? It's always a good idea to take everything with a grain of salt, as no one individual is infallible. However, I don't feel many of my suggestions have been met with much of an open-minded attitude, and it seems I always get grouped with the "ricers" or people that simply don't know a damn thing. Rather than trying to re-invent the d@mn wheel here (speaking generally here David, not about your project) with something that has already been done by other cars countless times, why not take a good, hard look at what works for others? There is a lot to be said for keeping sh*t simple! A good racer learns from their opponents.

333pg333

Trav, I don't think you quite got what I said. Absolutely nobody at the crux of this thread is arguing with you here. All Dave was trying to do was something that was not done before in this particular field. Having made a bit of a tongue in cheek announcement he is trying to incite a fun discourse over his intent. At NO stage has anyone jumped on the "Oh shut up Porschefile and Drifto etc, leave us alone and go back to ricerville" like has been done in the past. For some reason you guys have jumped onto that little red wagon again when you're amongst friends. Anyway this last couple of pages have been disrespectful to the originator of the thread. Let's wish him luck as he is doing pretty much what has frustrated you for so long about these cars, modifying them with a contemporary outlook even though as you say much of this has been done before by other modders.

Charlie944

Best to you on this one Dave, I hope to see it on the dyno in person. Are you going with a iron sleeved block?