UK 3.2 Turbo hits the road
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Paul,
It is so tempting mate, but you know what its like if the green monster gets on your shoulder and you think lets just give it a bit more.... got to show that *^%* in that EVO. Then its boom boom boom everybody say weyho weyho....... and a trip to the bank manager later................ If I was in your shoes i would get the MAF on now. The trouble is you can't roll the clock back later... well economically speaking. You have built one hell of a ride mate!
Cheers
Tom
It is so tempting mate, but you know what its like if the green monster gets on your shoulder and you think lets just give it a bit more.... got to show that *^%* in that EVO. Then its boom boom boom everybody say weyho weyho....... and a trip to the bank manager later................ If I was in your shoes i would get the MAF on now. The trouble is you can't roll the clock back later... well economically speaking. You have built one hell of a ride mate!
Cheers
Tom
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Hi Paul,
With the track day...
1. Keep the boost down where it is.
2. Dont use more than 3000 rpm or any boost until the oil has had a chance to get up to temp
3. Keep the max rpm as 5000 rpm, with max peak to bellow 5500
4. keep an eye on the temp...
5. Try to keep her to sessions of 10 or 15 mins of fun, with 5 mins of warm up and cool down either side of the fun.
6. Please dont use slicks
You seem to be quite a smooth driver, so I am less worried than I would with some drivers.
My worry with the engine, is that at the moment the ignition map in particular is no where near correct for your engine. Which was ok for running in the engine, but now we are past that, it needs sorting out... Without it being right, as well as loosing power, its not being kind to your valves, piston rings and several other components exposed to combustion and exhaust gas temps. This could drasticly reduce your engine lifespan.
The AFR is amazingly good for being the wrong chip for the car.. .which means at least your not going massively lean... but its still not right... I doubt your AFR will kill your engine, but it not being optimal may be reducing the overall life of your engine slightly.
With the track day...
1. Keep the boost down where it is.
2. Dont use more than 3000 rpm or any boost until the oil has had a chance to get up to temp
3. Keep the max rpm as 5000 rpm, with max peak to bellow 5500
4. keep an eye on the temp...
5. Try to keep her to sessions of 10 or 15 mins of fun, with 5 mins of warm up and cool down either side of the fun.
6. Please dont use slicks
You seem to be quite a smooth driver, so I am less worried than I would with some drivers.
My worry with the engine, is that at the moment the ignition map in particular is no where near correct for your engine. Which was ok for running in the engine, but now we are past that, it needs sorting out... Without it being right, as well as loosing power, its not being kind to your valves, piston rings and several other components exposed to combustion and exhaust gas temps. This could drasticly reduce your engine lifespan.
The AFR is amazingly good for being the wrong chip for the car.. .which means at least your not going massively lean... but its still not right... I doubt your AFR will kill your engine, but it not being optimal may be reducing the overall life of your engine slightly.
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Tommo is being the voice of reason and is quite right.
If you want to be really safe, get the MAF now, once its on, run a lower boost level so you can get used to it, and over time you can increase the boost as you wish.
If you want to get a MAF before the track day, I am prepared to help out on the cost as offered before or pay for your track day so you can have your cake and eat it.
Dont everyone expect me to be so generous though... I am still in the christmas spirit, good will to all men etc.. But I have my limits and a business to run!
If you want to be really safe, get the MAF now, once its on, run a lower boost level so you can get used to it, and over time you can increase the boost as you wish.
If you want to get a MAF before the track day, I am prepared to help out on the cost as offered before or pay for your track day so you can have your cake and eat it.
Dont everyone expect me to be so generous though... I am still in the christmas spirit, good will to all men etc.. But I have my limits and a business to run!
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Originally Posted by indi9xx
Tommo is being the voice of reason and is quite right. If you want to be really safe, get the MAF now, once its on, run a lower boost level so you can get used to it, and over time you can increase the boost as you wish. If you want to get a MAF before the track day, I am prepared to help out on the cost as offered before or pay for your track day so you can have your cake and eat it.
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Originally Posted by indi9xx
3. Keep the max rpm as 5000 rpm,
6. Please dont use slicks
Originally Posted by indi9xx
If you want to get a MAF before the track day, I am prepared to help out on the cost
Rolex has swapped many emails with me extolling the flexibility of the Vitesse kit and that it will cope with whatever psi I set it to. So I will stick to a low starting point for me to get used to the car on track and then build it up over time with the confidence that the fuelling stays in step
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Follow Rolex's idea its a wise one. The last thing you want is to feel all the boost all at once unexpectlly and hitting somthing and then wrecking your awsome car.
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Sorry to be a pooper Paul,
The not using slicks one is a general running recommendation we give for 944's.... from previous experiences (in particular race cars with pure race suspension though), a dry sump is the only way we can garauntee against oil surge.
With the MAF kit, before you get your hopes up, I am not offering to pay for all of it! Just offering to contribute to the cost of it either directly with a fixed amount, or a even higher amount credited to your account against future servicing or repairs.
We have a lot of development costs, heartache, blood, sweat and tears within your engine, so its in our interests to help you get her right
The not using slicks one is a general running recommendation we give for 944's.... from previous experiences (in particular race cars with pure race suspension though), a dry sump is the only way we can garauntee against oil surge.
With the MAF kit, before you get your hopes up, I am not offering to pay for all of it! Just offering to contribute to the cost of it either directly with a fixed amount, or a even higher amount credited to your account against future servicing or repairs.
We have a lot of development costs, heartache, blood, sweat and tears within your engine, so its in our interests to help you get her right
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Paul,
John has great products that work, he is a top bloke too. Could be time to get some octane booster too. I have a 55litre tank of Millers which I got a very advantagous price on, this would do you many many track days and give you piece of mind on the road.
Thats a great car mate, hope to get a ride later in the year!
cheers
Tom
John has great products that work, he is a top bloke too. Could be time to get some octane booster too. I have a 55litre tank of Millers which I got a very advantagous price on, this would do you many many track days and give you piece of mind on the road.
Thats a great car mate, hope to get a ride later in the year!
cheers
Tom
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Originally Posted by Diver944
I'll be calling you Monday morning. Rolex has swapped many emails with me extolling the flexibility of the Vitesse kit and that it will cope with whatever psi I set it to. So I will stick to a low starting point for me to get used to the car on track and then build it up over time with the confidence that the fuelling stays in step
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Originally Posted by Diver944
Well it's official. The Vitesse MAF and PB have just been ordered. Now where do I get one of those Vitesse logos to put in my signature.
You chose wisely Grasshopper...
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I have to admit I'm a little bit excited now
Anyway to pass the time while I wait for the kit to arrive I fitted a new reflective logo to the standard rear spoiler from http://www.highgatehouse.co.uk/
During the day it is plain white but at night it glows in the lights of following cars. I hope these pics can show the difference between day and night:
He also does them in red and blue, I'm thinking blue would have been better for my car
Anyway to pass the time while I wait for the kit to arrive I fitted a new reflective logo to the standard rear spoiler from http://www.highgatehouse.co.uk/
During the day it is plain white but at night it glows in the lights of following cars. I hope these pics can show the difference between day and night:
He also does them in red and blue, I'm thinking blue would have been better for my car
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Originally Posted by Diver944
I have to admit I'm a little bit excited now. Anyway to pass the time while I wait for the kit to arrive I fitted a new reflective logo to the standard rear spoiler from http://www.highgatehouse.co.uk/ During the day it is plain white but at night it glows in the lights of following cars. I hope these pics can show the difference between day and night. He also does them in red and blue, I'm thinking blue would have been better for my car.
Anyway, how long will it take for the VR stuff to get to you guys over there? Also, what size injectors do you have now, and are you staying with them too?
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Anyway, how long will it take for the VR stuff to get to you guys over there? Also, what size injectors do you have now, and are you staying with them too?
I currently have 72lb injectors which should be plenty sufficient for my maximum boost level
BTW here is a new pic of the latest cosmetic addition - the ubiquitous clear indicators conversion. I don't think it looks as good as it does on my wifes black S2, but one of the orange originals had a crack so something had to be done