UK 3.2 Turbo hits the road
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Originally Posted by Diver944
Ouch, hit me where it hurts. It looks like we have a UK based power struggle in the waiting especially with Nicks 3.0 Motec. I'd better get the Dyno Day organised before you two get your cars fully finished. Alternatively I could just work harder and get my VR MAF installed ahead of schedule
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Well done Tommo... Now turn that load of bits into an engine without further delay!
What gasket are you going for? Commetic MLS 106mm?
Paul,
I am begining to really worry that with that restriction in the intake between the turbo and the AFM, and without a propper or even closer map, that engine damage could occur.
So I would recommend going over to a MAF sooner rather than later.
What gasket are you going for? Commetic MLS 106mm?
Paul,
I am begining to really worry that with that restriction in the intake between the turbo and the AFM, and without a propper or even closer map, that engine damage could occur.
So I would recommend going over to a MAF sooner rather than later.
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Originally Posted by Diver944
Ouch, hit me where it hurts
It looks like we have a UK based power struggle in the waiting especially with Nicks 3.0 Motec. I'd better get the Dyno Day organised before you two get your cars fully finished ![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Alternatively I could just work harder and get my VR MAF installed ahead of schedule![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Alternatively I could just work harder and get my VR MAF installed ahead of schedule
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Hey Paul,
We are all looking up to you mate, you will be the daddy until we can prove otherwise! Nick's 3.0l with Motec sounds like it is going to be some act to follow. I have motec on my V12 Jag Coupe and it is so flexible its just a pain getting it right first time.
I am still using the 60:1 HIFI but a couple of improvements have been made by some motorsport friends.
Just in the process of building my clean area to build the engine. Totally encased in Polythene sheets with an air ioniser to take static and dust out of the air! Yes a bit **** I know, but can't be too careful. Even the torque wrenches have been back to Snap On for calibration!
Jon, in the past when building race engines I have always lock wired the rod caps/ Mains Caps . In your experience would you recommend this??
Cheers
Tom
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Tom,
I would not lockwire them, especially not the rod end caps.
What rods are you using? are you going to tighten the rod fasteners to torque, stretch or fight the stress of trying to get the fasteners within spec of both torque and stretch?
Well done with having the right attitude to your engine build (clean room), even if you suspect you are going over the top, just remember the phrase "start as you mean to go on"
I would not lockwire them, especially not the rod end caps.
What rods are you using? are you going to tighten the rod fasteners to torque, stretch or fight the stress of trying to get the fasteners within spec of both torque and stretch?
Well done with having the right attitude to your engine build (clean room), even if you suspect you are going over the top, just remember the phrase "start as you mean to go on"
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Great news. I have just been in contact with another 944 specialist here in the UK and his personal 3.0L conversion is just about finished. This means that when I organise the 4th annual UK Dyno Day later on this summer I am hoping that I will have at least FOUR cars with 3.0L or greater (myself,Nick968, Tommo and now Hartech).
It may take us Brits a while to get going but once we do there's no stopping us
It may take us Brits a while to get going but once we do there's no stopping us
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Great stuff paul! Delighted your car is up and running, cant wait to see how far you take it in the power stakes, it will be huge i'm sure
there was a time my 2.8 was top of the heap over there, not any more though
Have fun with it!
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Originally Posted by indi9xx
Tom,
I would not lockwire them, especially not the rod end caps.
What rods are you using? are you going to tighten the rod fasteners to torque, stretch or fight the stress of trying to get the fasteners within spec of both torque and stretch?
Well done with having the right attitude to your engine build (clean room), even if you suspect you are going over the top, just remember the phrase "start as you mean to go on"
I would not lockwire them, especially not the rod end caps.
What rods are you using? are you going to tighten the rod fasteners to torque, stretch or fight the stress of trying to get the fasteners within spec of both torque and stretch?
Well done with having the right attitude to your engine build (clean room), even if you suspect you are going over the top, just remember the phrase "start as you mean to go on"
I am using Pauter rods was going for stretch over torque as I have found that when using ARP bolts Torque generally comes up just before stretch.
On the subject of another project, are you planning on doing a 16v 3.2? Just something I have lined up for when the 944 Turbo retires from Road duty!
Cheers
Tom
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Paul, make that 5 or 6 three point somethings at the next dyno day.
Tommo, we have something rather exciting in the works at the moment. I cant go into it at the moment because... well to be honest, some of it may just not work!
Tommo, we have something rather exciting in the works at the moment. I cant go into it at the moment because... well to be honest, some of it may just not work!
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Originally Posted by 420WHP944
Great stuff paul! Delighted your car is up and running, cant wait to see how far you take it in the power stakes, it will be huge i'm sure. There was a time my 2.8 was top of the heap over there, not any more though.
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dude this is the year of the 951...totally
I'm way impressed with the number of guys stepping up to the plate to go for the 3 liter cars. Our community will benifit greatly from this.
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Originally Posted by guns951
dude this is the year of the 951...totally
I'm way impressed with the number of guys stepping up to the plate to go for the 3 liter cars. Our community will benifit greatly from this.
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2007 seems to be a year of the 3.0 liter engines. Here in Finland we have at least two 3.0 projects going on. One is my friends Pete's car and another one is my own project. Pete is building a sleeved engine and my engine is based on a S2 block. So it's quite many projects going on in Sweden-Finland-Estonia.
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Stock 2.5l is going to be the exception, not the norm, in the near future!
As we know also Porsches have always 'Boxed above their weight' so the cars making 400hp and upwards are really going to scare a lot of much higher profile cars on the road and the track in the next few years. Who knows what 2008 will bring?????
As we know also Porsches have always 'Boxed above their weight' so the cars making 400hp and upwards are really going to scare a lot of much higher profile cars on the road and the track in the next few years. Who knows what 2008 will bring?????
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Originally Posted by indi9xx
I am begining to really worry that with that restriction in the intake between the turbo and the AFM, and without a propper or even closer map, that engine damage could occur.
So I would recommend going over to a MAF sooner rather than later.
So I would recommend going over to a MAF sooner rather than later.
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The last thing I want to do after all this effort is cause some damage that will compromise the car in future but I was hoping to get used to the car in stages.
Maybe I should cancel my track days for a while and spend the savings on the MAF but turn the boost down very low to 6psi for example. This should still see me over the 300bhp mark