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This may be a silly question, but why not go over to a fully programmable system like a Wolf 3D plugin ecu ?
(apart from the costs, which seem pretty high for you americans)
(apart from the costs, which seem pretty high for you americans)
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Because now we have Maxtronic and/or VR Live... this will allow tunability for 95% of peoples needs, is simpler and a cheaper solution.
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Lart , talk with John (Vitesse). The chips are perfect out of the box. You'll
find that there won't be a need to tune for different boost.
I've done no tunning since I put in the chip board and can run whatever psi
I want and the AFR's are alway on the money.
And you won't believe how it idles!
find that there won't be a need to tune for different boost.
I've done no tunning since I put in the chip board and can run whatever psi
I want and the AFR's are alway on the money.
And you won't believe how it idles!
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Originally Posted by tconn
Lart, talk with John (Vitesse). The chips are perfect out of the box. You'll find that there won't be a need to tune for different boost.
I've done no tunning since I put in the chip board and can run whatever psi
I want and the AFR's are alway on the money. And you won't believe how it idles!
I've done no tunning since I put in the chip board and can run whatever psi
I want and the AFR's are alway on the money. And you won't believe how it idles!
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Vitesse did chips for my Lindsey maf, but I was able to provide John with the calibration sheet for my maf. I'm guessing that John won't do it without this sheet as there are just too many variances between maf sensors.
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Originally Posted by por951turbo
Vitesse did chips for my Lindsey maf, but I was able to provide John with the calibration sheet for my maf. I'm guessing that John won't do it without this sheet as there are just too many variances between maf sensors.
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Originally Posted by xtaC
This may be a silly question, but why not go over to a fully programmable system like a Wolf 3D plugin ecu ?
(apart from the costs, which seem pretty high for you americans)
(apart from the costs, which seem pretty high for you americans)
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Originally Posted by toddk911
Because with the chips and/or PB that are on the market now, there is no need for full stand alone.
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Well, not true.
The WOT tables are still 2d in the Motronic. While you can scale the fuelling correct, the ignition will stay the same.
Ignition tuning is much more delicate and harder to tune than fuelling. IMHO much more important too..
Basically, if you want maximum flexibility regardning boost levels, intake temps etc. with maximum performance and reliability Motronic doesn't cut it.
But I agree that standalone aren't for everyone.
The WOT tables are still 2d in the Motronic. While you can scale the fuelling correct, the ignition will stay the same.
Ignition tuning is much more delicate and harder to tune than fuelling. IMHO much more important too..
Basically, if you want maximum flexibility regardning boost levels, intake temps etc. with maximum performance and reliability Motronic doesn't cut it.
But I agree that standalone aren't for everyone.
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Originally Posted by RolexNJ
That's a blanket statement above and I don't agree with. I had both a MAF and custom chips in the past. But since my goals have changed, I've elected to go with a Tec3 - EMS. It depends upon the application for the end user.
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And ST is not even using full stand alone is he???