Millege intake, anyone have experience with it?
10-05-2006, 05:02 PM
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Scott Gomes is an awesome guy. He probably spent an hour on the phone with me to make $5 bucks. He will get my business in the future, just havent needed it yet...
And for the rest of this thread...wow - is all the name calling, reports sent, bickering needed?
Lets get back to the problem at hand:
And for the rest of this thread...wow - is all the name calling, reports sent, bickering needed?
Lets get back to the problem at hand:
10-05-2006, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SamGrant951
Scott Gomes is an awesome guy. He probably spent an hour on the phone with me to make $5 bucks. He will get my business in the future, just havent needed it yet...
And for the rest of this thread...wow - is all the name calling, reports sent, bickering needed?
Lets get back to the problem at hand:
And for the rest of this thread...wow - is all the name calling, reports sent, bickering needed?
Lets get back to the problem at hand:
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10-05-2006, 06:09 PM
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BBailey and M758(Joe P.
You are both so right. I have gotten a lot of slack for paying what I paid for my motor. In the end you do get what you pay for. Jon's motors win, a lot. Many people on these boards have the same problem with David at Powerhaus but my motor is built "right". They go up against Jon's motors a lot. Actually, Joe P was there when my motor was dynoed. 480 "load" dyno at 21psi with stock size exhaust, APE chips and Maf, and only 52lb injectors. Not bad. It is a race motor. Ready to do 30 minute sessions of hard time without a sweat. I'm just looking to upgrade and had questions about the intake and other upgrades. If I do upgrade I do believe I will be making my motor a street motor but in further talks with David, it will still be very reliable, but it will be up to me how long it last. His own motor is the same as mine with over 90,000 something miles on it. I'm looking to upgrade to 650whp reliably to my car. Can it be done? I don't know but I have an incredible building block by having David do my motor in the first place. Same would be said if I went to Jon.
Rob, I did get the information I was looking for I guess except...
JLockton, since you have two of them, what is your experience with them? I truly believe you get what you pay for and are they worth it in the end? How's the powerband? Throttle response? Good and bad. If he doesn't make them, who does? Do they make them exclusively for Jon? Thanks
You are both so right. I have gotten a lot of slack for paying what I paid for my motor. In the end you do get what you pay for. Jon's motors win, a lot. Many people on these boards have the same problem with David at Powerhaus but my motor is built "right". They go up against Jon's motors a lot. Actually, Joe P was there when my motor was dynoed. 480 "load" dyno at 21psi with stock size exhaust, APE chips and Maf, and only 52lb injectors. Not bad. It is a race motor. Ready to do 30 minute sessions of hard time without a sweat. I'm just looking to upgrade and had questions about the intake and other upgrades. If I do upgrade I do believe I will be making my motor a street motor but in further talks with David, it will still be very reliable, but it will be up to me how long it last. His own motor is the same as mine with over 90,000 something miles on it. I'm looking to upgrade to 650whp reliably to my car. Can it be done? I don't know but I have an incredible building block by having David do my motor in the first place. Same would be said if I went to Jon.
Rob, I did get the information I was looking for I guess except...
JLockton, since you have two of them, what is your experience with them? I truly believe you get what you pay for and are they worth it in the end? How's the powerband? Throttle response? Good and bad. If he doesn't make them, who does? Do they make them exclusively for Jon? Thanks
10-05-2006, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RolexNJ
If I could ban your butt I would trailer trash. And you miss the point of the thread. How are your reading comprehension skills too? Or, are you just starting on ebonics out there in the sticks. Idiot.
PS. Report Sent. And guess what TT (Trailer Trash) I have some clout around here too Mr non-member
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10-05-2006, 07:02 PM
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Yes they are worth it for a pure race car . It was a joint project between Jon and Nathan Ulrich. they source out the barrel vaves and have the runners cast .Max Crawford does the chamber (carbon fiber). I can tell you it is not the same as the other tb style intakes with butterfies , much smoother and very respnsive . If our car does not sell on ebay it is getting cut up and parted out , I will keep everyone in the loop . we will sell our spare motor complete w motec/intake /turbo/header/drysump pump /ready to drop in for 20k It is brand new fresh 520+hp @1.0 bar .
10-05-2006, 07:12 PM
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lockton - do you have an engine dyno sheet at 1 bar?
We are not sheep here in the 951 forum - I have been in business longer than Milledge, I know that someone building car engines for a living might be inclined to exagerate.
Please prove me wrong here.
No sheet will confirm my suspicion.
We are not sheep here in the 951 forum - I have been in business longer than Milledge, I know that someone building car engines for a living might be inclined to exagerate.
Please prove me wrong here.
No sheet will confirm my suspicion.
10-05-2006, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DFASTEST951
Actually, Joe P was there when my motor was dynoed. 480 "load" dyno at 21psi with stock size exhaust, APE chips and Maf, and only 52lb injectors.
10-05-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by M758
Well I WISH I had been there. Sadly I was not, I believe was around when Chris Cervelli ran his 3.0L race car on the dyno. Came to 450 hp or so at that time.
.Raj
10-05-2006, 11:51 PM
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Wait a minute, I'm sure it was you Joe. You mentioned you were heavy into 944 spec racing. It was at Dyno Comp. Oh, I had a six foot blonde bombshell with me. Remember now? I'm sure it was you...
10-06-2006, 12:26 AM
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10-06-2006, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DFASTEST951
Who's Max Crawford? I guess what I'm asking is it worth getting for a street motor? Can I get it?
10-06-2006, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DFASTEST951
BBailey and M758(Joe P.
You are both so right. I have gotten a lot of slack for paying what I paid for my motor. In the end you do get what you pay for. Jon's motors win, a lot. Many people on these boards have the same problem with David at Powerhaus but my motor is built "right". They go up against Jon's motors a lot. Actually, Joe P was there when my motor was dynoed. 480 "load" dyno at 21psi with stock size exhaust, APE chips and Maf, and only 52lb injectors. Not bad. It is a race motor. Ready to do 30 minute sessions of hard time without a sweat. I'm just looking to upgrade and had questions about the intake and other upgrades. If I do upgrade I do believe I will be making my motor a street motor but in further talks with David, it will still be very reliable, but it will be up to me how long it last. His own motor is the same as mine with over 90,000 something miles on it. I'm looking to upgrade to 650whp reliably to my car. Can it be done? I don't know but I have an incredible building block by having David do my motor in the first place. Same would be said if I went to Jon.
Rob, I did get the information I was looking for I guess except...
JLockton, since you have two of them, what is your experience with them? I truly believe you get what you pay for and are they worth it in the end? How's the powerband? Throttle response? Good and bad. If he doesn't make them, who does? Do they make them exclusively for Jon? Thanks
You are both so right. I have gotten a lot of slack for paying what I paid for my motor. In the end you do get what you pay for. Jon's motors win, a lot. Many people on these boards have the same problem with David at Powerhaus but my motor is built "right". They go up against Jon's motors a lot. Actually, Joe P was there when my motor was dynoed. 480 "load" dyno at 21psi with stock size exhaust, APE chips and Maf, and only 52lb injectors. Not bad. It is a race motor. Ready to do 30 minute sessions of hard time without a sweat. I'm just looking to upgrade and had questions about the intake and other upgrades. If I do upgrade I do believe I will be making my motor a street motor but in further talks with David, it will still be very reliable, but it will be up to me how long it last. His own motor is the same as mine with over 90,000 something miles on it. I'm looking to upgrade to 650whp reliably to my car. Can it be done? I don't know but I have an incredible building block by having David do my motor in the first place. Same would be said if I went to Jon.
Rob, I did get the information I was looking for I guess except...
JLockton, since you have two of them, what is your experience with them? I truly believe you get what you pay for and are they worth it in the end? How's the powerband? Throttle response? Good and bad. If he doesn't make them, who does? Do they make them exclusively for Jon? Thanks
I am glad you are sticking with David.You have a successful established relationship with him and he knows 951 motors in and out.
But do not catch yourself piecemealing different parts from different vendors and then expecting it to work in harmony. If you are willing to spend major coin then going MOTEC (and Powerhaus is able to set it up right) is the next step plus radical cams , more headwork etc. I am pretty sure David explained it to you already.
However, a true 650 rwhp (not just a millisec boostspike induced peak hp dynoqueen) with streetability is going to be a tall order and the lifespan will be counted in hours not miles.