2.5 -> 2.8 conversion
10-14-2004, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by v944god
Well here's the situation I really don't like spending much money on cars because they aren't the best of investments especially when you drop all that money into them and barely get the money that you've spent on it. If I was able to get the parts between 3-4k than I would have had the project on way this winter.
Honestly what can make it cost so much? Human error?
Honestly what can make it cost so much? Human error?
A few cost examples of while you in there,
head refresh and ported $500- $1000
high performance clutch and pressure plate $1000
lifters a little soft, don't want those going back in a new engine $400-$500
I spent almost $1000 on just gaskets and fasteners
Ceramic coatings and or heat wraps $100-$500
Update oilpan baffleing $100-$200
Want the crank lightened and cross drilled $500-$1000
Turbo $800 +
+ the cost of stroking or big bore parts $$$$$
If you are not doing the assembly, then add huge $$ for labor
That is off the top of my head and if everything goes right the first time.
Do you go to any track days ?? your car is very fast as it is and should take care of any boredom from street driving.
10-14-2004, 12:49 PM
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I agree with david. You are looking at this in the wrong sense altogether.
We don't get into these car's for investment's. We spend the money for the enjoyment of it. I would never look to get half of the money back I have in my car ever. I course I don't plan on selling it either so.
No one ever see's the same amount invested back when you are talking about aftermarket products. I don't care what car you drive. Your ls6 is the same freggin way. You will see this clean 02 model with intake,ls reflash, and exhaust for 38k...then you will see this stock one over here for 38k. Get my point? You are lucky to get 20 cents on the doller with this stuff.
Buy it for smiles not to put money back in your pocket when you try and sell it.
We don't get into these car's for investment's. We spend the money for the enjoyment of it. I would never look to get half of the money back I have in my car ever. I course I don't plan on selling it either so.
No one ever see's the same amount invested back when you are talking about aftermarket products. I don't care what car you drive. Your ls6 is the same freggin way. You will see this clean 02 model with intake,ls reflash, and exhaust for 38k...then you will see this stock one over here for 38k. Get my point? You are lucky to get 20 cents on the doller with this stuff.
Buy it for smiles not to put money back in your pocket when you try and sell it.
10-14-2004, 03:17 PM
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if i could do it all over again i'd go 2.6 all-bore or just build a scary 3.xL 16v from scratch.
what's in my car is a nicely worked 3.0 crank thanks to a fellow lister, pauter rods from lindsey and stock (but fly cut) pistons. it is quite nice but not the end-all, and by no means cheap
what's in my car is a nicely worked 3.0 crank thanks to a fellow lister, pauter rods from lindsey and stock (but fly cut) pistons. it is quite nice but not the end-all, and by no means cheap
10-14-2004, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pk951
How much was the big bore kit from Anderson, if i may ask?
10-14-2004, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dmoffitt
if i could do it all over again i'd build a scary 3.xL 16v from scratch.
10-14-2004, 10:17 PM
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Well I'm probably going to be in the market to find a newer car in a couple months, z06, evo8, nsx, etc.. It all depends on how this mortage deal goes for me.
But I'm willing to drop a little over 4k, but I'm not trying to go overboard. Usually when I buy cars I try and focus on the resell value as well. I won't get much money from the 2.8l, but aslong as I had some fun with it I'll be happy.
I thought all I needed was the crank, pistons, rods, and I was good to go with the conversion, but I guess not.
But I'm willing to drop a little over 4k, but I'm not trying to go overboard. Usually when I buy cars I try and focus on the resell value as well. I won't get much money from the 2.8l, but aslong as I had some fun with it I'll be happy.
I thought all I needed was the crank, pistons, rods, and I was good to go with the conversion, but I guess not.
10-15-2004, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by v944god
I thought all I needed was the crank, pistons, rods, and I was good to go with the conversion, but I guess not.
It's misleading when people say the conversion costs 10-15 k, since it not the 2.8 liter conversion itself that costs so much, but all the other things that makes for a rebuilt and good tuned 2.8 liter turbo engine.
If you're not ready to address more things than the conversion alone you will get more power for less money sticking to 2.5 liter.
10-15-2004, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Duke
That's enough to do the conversion, and it should be fine with 4-5 k.
It's misleading when people say the conversion costs 10-15 k, since it not the 2.8 liter conversion itself that costs so much, but all the other things that makes for a rebuilt and good tuned 2.8 liter turbo engine.
If you're not ready to address more things than the conversion alone you will get more power for less money sticking to 2.5 liter.
It's misleading when people say the conversion costs 10-15 k, since it not the 2.8 liter conversion itself that costs so much, but all the other things that makes for a rebuilt and good tuned 2.8 liter turbo engine.
If you're not ready to address more things than the conversion alone you will get more power for less money sticking to 2.5 liter.
This is true, for the conversion parts alone. I was not trying to be misleading, (sorry if I was) just did not want v944god to think he could correctly build a 2.8 for $4-5 k you just can't. IMHO
10-15-2004, 12:36 PM
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David's right! By the time you do gaskets etc.. You will be around 4-5k. Then you need a turbo and mass airflow and injectors. I'm doing one right now. To do it "right" you will be close to $10k. TRUST ME!
10-15-2004, 03:42 PM
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Why do I need to switch the turbo for? It's still going to be a 3" inlet right?
Also, wouldn't a Stage II turbo from a vitesse do?
Clutch? I already have a cup clutch and seems to hold up this power.
The rods, pistons, and crankshaft should be atleast 3k or so. I'm looking for the bare minimum of the conversion.
Also, wouldn't a Stage II turbo from a vitesse do?
Clutch? I already have a cup clutch and seems to hold up this power.
The rods, pistons, and crankshaft should be atleast 3k or so. I'm looking for the bare minimum of the conversion.