Porsche 944 Turbo restomod
#436
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member
Rennlist
Lifetime Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
The following 8 users liked this post by Frank@Work:
968to986 (05-30-2022),
Chapman951 (05-31-2022),
Constantine (06-01-2022),
ealoken (05-29-2022),
JRP944 (05-31-2022),
and 3 others liked this post.
#440
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
This is so awesome. Your work is top-notch and the end result is better than when new. Bravo!
The following users liked this post:
Chapman951 (05-31-2022)
#443
Pro
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
FYI:
I'm running the Bilstein cup coilovers without torsion bars. Yesterday I've replaced the springs on the rear axle. I've had several springs to test to get to the point where the ride is firm, but not too firm. The cars handles very well and has a lot of traction.
The springs I've ended up with (for the rear, without torsion bars):
Eibach ERS-H-200-60-0070
Lengt: 7.87 in
Diameter: 2.36 in I.D.
Rate: 400 lbs.in
Rate: 7.14 kg/mm
Block height: 2.81 in
Travel: 5.06 in
Block load: 2.022 lbs
Weight: 2.37 lbs
I will check which Eibach springs are on the front axle (and post it).
I'm running the Bilstein cup coilovers without torsion bars. Yesterday I've replaced the springs on the rear axle. I've had several springs to test to get to the point where the ride is firm, but not too firm. The cars handles very well and has a lot of traction.
The springs I've ended up with (for the rear, without torsion bars):
Eibach ERS-H-200-60-0070
Lengt: 7.87 in
Diameter: 2.36 in I.D.
Rate: 400 lbs.in
Rate: 7.14 kg/mm
Block height: 2.81 in
Travel: 5.06 in
Block load: 2.022 lbs
Weight: 2.37 lbs
I will check which Eibach springs are on the front axle (and post it).
#444
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Nice. I got ERS 200 60 150 for the fronts.
Maybe I'll go lower if it ever starts rolling on it's own power but for now I want it to be hard as a rock.
![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
#445
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member
Rennlist
Lifetime Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
FYI:
I'm running the Bilstein cup coilovers without torsion bars. Yesterday I've replaced the springs on the rear axle. I've had several springs to test to get to the point where the ride is firm, but not too firm. The cars handles very well and has a lot of traction.
The springs I've ended up with (for the rear, without torsion bars):
Rate: 400 lbs.in
I'm running the Bilstein cup coilovers without torsion bars. Yesterday I've replaced the springs on the rear axle. I've had several springs to test to get to the point where the ride is firm, but not too firm. The cars handles very well and has a lot of traction.
The springs I've ended up with (for the rear, without torsion bars):
Rate: 400 lbs.in
#446
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Small
Business Sponsor
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Small
Business Sponsor
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
stiffness of the shocks makes a bigger difference in feel than the stiffness of the springs.
I have used 550 from 350 rear for many years as a 'benchmark' for street set ups with torsion bar delete. changing the compression of the shocks has much more of a 'stiff' feeling in the butt measuring device
I have used 550 from 350 rear for many years as a 'benchmark' for street set ups with torsion bar delete. changing the compression of the shocks has much more of a 'stiff' feeling in the butt measuring device
#447
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member
Rennlist
Lifetime Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
That's a good point about shock settings Chris. I've seen references to setups that have used similar spring rates to what you state, but I've never seen anyone explain the logic behind what look like "mismatched rates" as I would be inclined to set it up exactly the opposite way for a car with near 50/50 weight distribution. To each his own ![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
#448
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Small
Business Sponsor
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Small
Business Sponsor
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
That's a good point about shock settings Chris. I've seen references to setups that have used similar spring rates to what you state, but I've never seen anyone explain the logic behind what look like "mismatched rates" as I would be inclined to set it up exactly the opposite way for a car with near 50/50 weight distribution. To each his own ![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
#449
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Any info out there what spring rates were on lemans race cars?
#450
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member
Rennlist
Lifetime Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
sorry - other way around! 350 front 550 rear. Lots of folks get fixated on the 50/50 thing. I found that you tune either end individually, 550 is minimum for rear, any less and there is too much squat. 350 front is a minimum that gives nice turn in with decent ride quality. Track cars can go as high as 900 front. There is no real ‘tie’ between front and rear, they get tuned for what you want them to do