Gates Racing Timing Belt - Anyone have one for sale or looking for one?
08-17-2016, 08:05 PM
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I did post, but I don't see my name up there.
08-17-2016, 08:17 PM
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission?
George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission?
George Layton March 2014928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
08-17-2016, 09:31 PM
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Any guesses on timeframe for these? I imagine it won't be in time for use on my GB motor.
Hmm. I thought that's what made them no-stretch.
JB's on a roll today!
Hmm. I thought that's what made them no-stretch.
JB's on a roll today!
08-17-2016, 10:47 PM
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With all the special qualities to this racing belt, does it mean it would be ok to leave them on longer than the customary 6 years for standard street driving on standard engined (not supercharged nor stroked) cars?
08-18-2016, 03:56 AM
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Gates is not only making racing timing belts for the 928. Racing timing belts are made for BMW, Audi and more.
http://www.gatesracing.com/
http://www.gatesracing.com/products/timing-belts
http://www.gates.com/products/automo...e-timing-belts
https://www.iemotorsport.com/bmw/E30...gatesbelt.html
Åke
http://www.gatesracing.com/
http://www.gatesracing.com/products/timing-belts
http://www.gates.com/products/automo...e-timing-belts
https://www.iemotorsport.com/bmw/E30...gatesbelt.html
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08-18-2016, 07:18 AM
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Tooth shear life ＝ 2 times Tooth sheer is important with high rpm, high performance engines due to the constant fluctuation in acceleration and deceleration where tooth stability is critical.
Heat resistance life ＝ 3 times Heat is a major factor in timing belt degradation and high performing engines run much hotter. Heat resistance is essential for long belt life.
Tensile strength life ＝ 2 times Conditions such as heat and contamination damage the longitudinally cords used in a timing belt. But the real devastator to the cord is the continual bending and straightening of the belt. Tensile strength is extremely important in keeping the belt from breaking during the billions of rotations it must endure.
Contamination life (Oil and coolant ) ＝ 2 times Coolant is another element that can cause damage if not addressed. Contamination resistance is also very important in a timing belt. One of the most detrimental elements to rubber is petroleum products such as oil.
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08-18-2016, 09:45 AM
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Gates is not only making racing timing belts for the 928. Racing timing belts are made for BMW, Audi and more.
http://www.gatesracing.com/
http://www.gatesracing.com/products/timing-belts
http://www.gates.com/products/automo...e-timing-belts
https://www.iemotorsport.com/bmw/E30...gatesbelt.html
Åke
http://www.gatesracing.com/
http://www.gatesracing.com/products/timing-belts
http://www.gates.com/products/automo...e-timing-belts
https://www.iemotorsport.com/bmw/E30...gatesbelt.html
Åke
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...the-944-a.html
08-18-2016, 02:49 PM
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I located the 928sRus catalog information & cost on the Gates racing timing belt back in May 2011 that had the data on what makes it a racing belt. That sold me and for only $167.50 !!
3 times more heat resistance then the stock belt.
3 times the load carrying capability then the stock belt.
3 times the life of the stock belt.
2 times the tooth integrity of the stock belt.
3 times the tensile endurance of the stock belt.
- High tech nylon fiber jacket to increase belt durability.
- Kevlar eliminates belt stretch.
3 times more heat resistance then the stock belt.
3 times the load carrying capability then the stock belt.
3 times the life of the stock belt.
2 times the tooth integrity of the stock belt.
3 times the tensile endurance of the stock belt.
- High tech nylon fiber jacket to increase belt durability.
- Kevlar eliminates belt stretch.
08-18-2016, 02:57 PM
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Hi Tony,
I already posted the technical detail in post #33.
I repeat the belt does not have any Kevlar. This was a misconception prior to the actual product definition and final production way back when.
Best,
Roger
I already posted the technical detail in post #33.
I repeat the belt does not have any Kevlar. This was a misconception prior to the actual product definition and final production way back when.
Best,
Roger
08-18-2016, 03:02 PM
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The theory is that the belt will last 2 to 3 times longer than the original. There are at least 200 in the market but I have yet to have feedback on how the belt is fairing after prolonged use under normal operating conditions.
Most who purchased the belt did so for high performance reasons - stroker, turbo, SC and general racing. That in my book is not normal parameters.
In retrospect "Racing" was not the correct nomenclature - it should have been "Long Life".
Maybe with the new batch I will change the name to better reflect the purpose.
Most who purchased the belt did so for high performance reasons - stroker, turbo, SC and general racing. That in my book is not normal parameters.
In retrospect "Racing" was not the correct nomenclature - it should have been "Long Life".
Maybe with the new batch I will change the name to better reflect the purpose.
08-18-2016, 03:18 PM
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call me silly, but ive been very happy with the conti belt.
cant argue with 250 race days on a 928. and yes Jim, i turn my conti belt into a racing belt by soaking it in Amsoil 15-50 racing oil for an hour!
maybe its flexibiltiy adds to its life and lower wear characteristics .... maybe they are even good for a few ponies up top, when accelerating from max torque, to max HP, with the auto timing retard function.
cant argue with 250 race days on a 928. and yes Jim, i turn my conti belt into a racing belt by soaking it in Amsoil 15-50 racing oil for an hour!
maybe its flexibiltiy adds to its life and lower wear characteristics .... maybe they are even good for a few ponies up top, when accelerating from max torque, to max HP, with the auto timing retard function.
Life differentiation (OEM = 1)
Tooth shear life ＝ 2 times Tooth sheer is important with high rpm, high performance engines due to the constant fluctuation in acceleration and deceleration where tooth stability is critical.
Heat resistance life ＝ 3 times Heat is a major factor in timing belt degradation and high performing engines run much hotter. Heat resistance is essential for long belt life.
Tensile strength life ＝ 2 times Conditions such as heat and contamination damage the longitudinally cords used in a timing belt. But the real devastator to the cord is the continual bending and straightening of the belt. Tensile strength is extremely important in keeping the belt from breaking during the billions of rotations it must endure.
Contamination life (Oil and coolant ) ＝ 2 times Coolant is another element that can cause damage if not addressed. Contamination resistance is also very important in a timing belt. One of the most detrimental elements to rubber is petroleum products such as oil.
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Tooth shear life ＝ 2 times Tooth sheer is important with high rpm, high performance engines due to the constant fluctuation in acceleration and deceleration where tooth stability is critical.
Heat resistance life ＝ 3 times Heat is a major factor in timing belt degradation and high performing engines run much hotter. Heat resistance is essential for long belt life.
Tensile strength life ＝ 2 times Conditions such as heat and contamination damage the longitudinally cords used in a timing belt. But the real devastator to the cord is the continual bending and straightening of the belt. Tensile strength is extremely important in keeping the belt from breaking during the billions of rotations it must endure.
Contamination life (Oil and coolant ) ＝ 2 times Coolant is another element that can cause damage if not addressed. Contamination resistance is also very important in a timing belt. One of the most detrimental elements to rubber is petroleum products such as oil.
Performance Distinctions
08-18-2016, 03:30 PM
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call me silly, but ive been very happy with the conti belt.
cant argue with 250 race days on a 928. and yes Jim, i turn my conti belt into a racing belt by soaking it in Amsoil 15-50 racing oil for an hour!
maybe its flexibiltiy adds to its life and lower wear characteristics .... maybe they are even good for a few ponies up top, when accelerating from max torque, to max HP, with the auto timing retard function.
cant argue with 250 race days on a 928. and yes Jim, i turn my conti belt into a racing belt by soaking it in Amsoil 15-50 racing oil for an hour!
maybe its flexibiltiy adds to its life and lower wear characteristics .... maybe they are even good for a few ponies up top, when accelerating from max torque, to max HP, with the auto timing retard function.
