The great Kibort Amsoil challenge
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I just looked on race monitor, kibort best was 1.31……, didn't see anderson name anywhere….wonder where else I should look… quite a few under 1.30…
that is a fast crowd….
that is a fast crowd….
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I expected the thread author or Paul, our lone observer, would have jumped in. Something must have sidetracked Mark Anderson, and Mark Kibort's 1:31 fails to meet Greg Brown's "respectable" time criteria.
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His tires weren't heat cycled yet and he was bedding in new pads. He let a few cars pass him so they would not hit him from behind. It was a 3rd gear pass- above 5500 rpm.
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I see MK running in the POC Red group in GT3, with a best 1:34.17 in the red run #1, a 1:34.19 in qualifying, and a 1:33 even in the Red Cup race.
https://www.race-monitor.com/Results/Session/5728484
Best qualifying time in GT3 was 1:24.63.
All that said, Kibort was at the track, and I was not. So he still wins.
https://www.race-monitor.com/Results/Session/5728484
Best qualifying time in GT3 was 1:24.63.
All that said, Kibort was at the track, and I was not. So he still wins.
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The good news is no 928's were harmed in the running of this event. Marks' car ran strong all weekend with no signs of oil starvation and no wheels fell off due to improper torque. I know he was a bit disappointed that he was not faster but he raced well improving his position in both races. I think he qualified 16th and finished 8th on Sunday. I know Mark would love to tell his story but his vacation is not over for 10 more days I think.
Thanks to Paul for lending a hand when we had to make some minor repairs.
Thanks to Paul for lending a hand when we had to make some minor repairs.
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There's really nothing to be said until Mark gets back from his "vacation" and gives us an update of what the weekend was like. I think Mark Anderson left Saturday evening and came home (due to lack of interest). Only MK will know how Sunday went, for him.
All teasing aside, MK's best lap was very respectible, for him not being familiar with Willow. And on any given weekend, Willow can be either fast or slow...depending on a number of factors (wind, track temperature, when it rained last, when the track got oiled last)....which are all unknown, at this time.
Trying to compare MK's car and driving to Anderson's car and driving is just crazy...two completely different things. If Anderson drove Kibort's car, there may be something to be learned there....but, in the end, does that really matter?
Encouraging news that the car worked fine....we will have to see what Mark has to say about rpms turned in particular sections of the track, etc.
All teasing aside, MK's best lap was very respectible, for him not being familiar with Willow. And on any given weekend, Willow can be either fast or slow...depending on a number of factors (wind, track temperature, when it rained last, when the track got oiled last)....which are all unknown, at this time.
Trying to compare MK's car and driving to Anderson's car and driving is just crazy...two completely different things. If Anderson drove Kibort's car, there may be something to be learned there....but, in the end, does that really matter?
Encouraging news that the car worked fine....we will have to see what Mark has to say about rpms turned in particular sections of the track, etc.
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Mark did well. It's how often he used second gear, keeping the engine over 5500 rpm and early apexing every turn that interests me. Video !! And if he shuffle steered.
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All teasing aside, MK's best lap was very respectible, for him not being familiar with Willow. And on any given weekend, Willow can be either fast or slow...depending on a number of factors (wind, track temperature, when it rained last, when the track got oiled last)....which are all unknown, at this time.
More and more, I'm sure Greg's account has been hacked. Or he's letting Mark post through it. Is Greg being held hostage? Can anyone confirm that he's OK and not suffering from some malady?
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you havent been brought up to speed of the new fashions! ![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
yeah!
yes, all good .. brand new... but, i think i have a fuel pump relay issue.... had to tap it to get the car started. will swap out.![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
they match... but the stripe must have been showing as it was folded over. they are nike... supposed to be a good look says my girl and kids! everyone is going black socks now..... i was a little resistant, but have since surrendered.
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yes, all good .. brand new... but, i think i have a fuel pump relay issue.... had to tap it to get the car started. will swap out.
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There's really nothing to be said until Mark gets back from his "vacation" and gives us an update of what the weekend was like. I think Mark Anderson left Saturday evening and came home (due to lack of interest). Only MK will know how Sunday went, for him.
lack of interest?
All teasing aside, MK's best lap was very respectible, for him not being familiar with Willow. And on any given weekend, Willow can be either fast or slow...depending on a number of factors (wind, track temperature, when it rained last, when the track got oiled last)....which are all unknown, at this time.
Trying to compare MK's car and driving to Anderson's car and driving is just crazy...two completely different things. If Anderson drove Kibort's car, there may be something to be learned there....but, in the end, does that really matter?
Encouraging news that the car worked fine....we will have to see what Mark has to say about rpms turned in particular sections of the track, etc.
lack of interest?
All teasing aside, MK's best lap was very respectible, for him not being familiar with Willow. And on any given weekend, Willow can be either fast or slow...depending on a number of factors (wind, track temperature, when it rained last, when the track got oiled last)....which are all unknown, at this time.
Trying to compare MK's car and driving to Anderson's car and driving is just crazy...two completely different things. If Anderson drove Kibort's car, there may be something to be learned there....but, in the end, does that really matter?
Encouraging news that the car worked fine....we will have to see what Mark has to say about rpms turned in particular sections of the track, etc.
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Yes, the track has got a personality all its own, dependant on lots of factors. Ive determined that the locals keep turn 9 visual cues a secret, so no outsiders can run fast around 8-9.
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the car ran so well besides some other mechanical issues, not engine. so well and so consistant that if mark was going to stay, i would have NO issue with him driving it on sunday... and that was my plan had he stayed.
oil pressure perfectly stuck at 5bar, worst case 4.5bar around the suspect turns. no burning oil.. only used 1 quart all weekend. 3 hours of all out track time for the 928, all at the max rev the car could muster. in fact, i did something that mark rarely did with racer. i would downshift in to 3rd around turn 1 to get an additional 50-75hp at the exit and then use the normal 4th gear around turn 4. there is ONLY one downshift normaly at this track for a 928 (besides my turn 1 downshift). into the omega, a downshift to 3rd, and then over the hump down the back straight, back into 4th. RPM got to near 6k down the main straight 140mph was my usual target and on the back side, where the trust of the tires comes into play, 135mph was my fastest before turning into 8 and that was around 5500rpm...... i would lift and if i would go back, that wouldnt be the case for sure. LOTs of time left on the track there.
as far as time... I:31 was my best in the 1st race, but had some MAJOR issues along that race. power steering pump blown line spraying oil all over the car, and a smoking front tire filling the cabin with smoke from the outlap. details to follow.....
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The good news is no 928's were harmed in the running of this event. Marks' car ran strong all weekend with no signs of oil starvation and no wheels fell off due to improper torque. I know he was a bit disappointed that he was not faster but he raced well improving his position in both races. I think he qualified 16th and finished 8th on Sunday. I know Mark would love to tell his story but his vacation is not over for 10 more days I think.
Thanks to Paul for lending a hand when we had to make some minor repairs.
Thanks to Paul for lending a hand when we had to make some minor repairs.
Great to hang out but sorry your rig was giving you fits! next time for sure... and thanks for the help with my powersterring line blow out. i wouldnt have had the energy at that point to figure it out. i was done . hot, tired and the kids were bored... you helped me save the weeekned. although at that point, i had some pretty good fun out there. really fun race!!
yes, there are some fast cars and Willow is a super fast track. you want a speed fix... thats the place to go!!
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Now, i had a few goals for the weekend, but hustling to fix something after qualifying, i had some help... you know I've been a one man show for 20 years at the track , occasionally having some pit help, but generally, i do it all myself. the helpers (mark and Paul with my kids) laid out my tires around the car before changing and were not aware of the significant differences in offset rims. so, i ended up with a wheel way to far out the front of the front fender and one that was way inboard on the one side rear... However i did make sure all lugs were hand tightened the same. (verified 90ft-lbs +/- 5
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Anyway, I'm smoking on the outlap and thinking what could possibly be wrong. maybe a slight variance in tire size for the Hoosier? (used) maybe i left a spacer on ?......... so , the green drops and im filling up with smoke on right turns. it starts to subside..... having so much fun racing and chasing guys down, but i have other issues.. my windshield is getting sprayed with oil.... here i am, cursing Ron (POC pres and racer) when i was behind him, but it's really my Power Steering line blown. I'm wondering why my biceps are cramping.. I muster up a bunch of passes, run the 1:31 having a blast racing in a group of 4-5 cars, and going after the next group of 3......but, finally i can barely turn the car so i pull in to the pits ....... (corner workers are motioning me with the "your smoking" signal, puffing their fingers to their lips) cars a mess, oil all over the engine bay and that front tire is cut at the outside edge .
Found the blown line with the help of my "pit crew', Mark, Paul and kids and now the search for a 6" line that has a special dimension that nothing i have can fit. Pepboys here we come... find a few lines with similar dimensions and come Sunday morning, cut one up that fit (fuel line, PS lines were too small)... close enough. Put on the correct tires and off the car went to practice. with all my help gone, took a little fun out of the sunday sessions, but the race was fun.. tires were not so great, but had a good race with a few of the POC'ers. Before the race, i had the #8 header tube ready to fall out of the engine.. NOT connected at all. was going to just can it and go home, but was able to tighten the joint at the bottom (slip fit) and that seemed to stabliize and reduce the exhaust noise. now i have 3 things going on .... power steering that doesnt feel quite right, rear tire (was front previos day that is cut down), and a header that might fall out at any second.
anyway,
Lots of wind, but was stuck behind a cup car in the turns, only to have him squirt ahead on the straights. By the time i got by, there was only 2 laps left and i spent that lap taking notes on RPM and oil pressures for an entire all out lap. did one lap with a downshift into turn 1, thus increasing the RPM that Anderson would use during a lap for that section and getting close to matching his down the back straight and around turn 8-9 as well as turn 2.
funny thing about the POC red group is that they don't seem to know about when to start a race when the green flag drops which means, " go" at the start... it seems most of the guys in the back, just take off after turn 9 regardless of a green flag showing or not. pretty funny!
so, the 928 survived.... no problems what so ever in the engine department. good power, lots of oil pressure , always, only burned 1 quart all weekend.
and that's 3 hours of all out racing! Totally corded a tire to the steel belts on the inside edge of the right tire... .that's the one that hangs on high g loading, 120-130mph right turn 8-9. the left tire compresses, droop causes more steering angle and the inside tire is angled way way toe out and just get destroyed! always have a almost new tire on that side at willow!
All in all a great weekend but a long drive home and worth it!
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Anyway, I'm smoking on the outlap and thinking what could possibly be wrong. maybe a slight variance in tire size for the Hoosier? (used) maybe i left a spacer on ?......... so , the green drops and im filling up with smoke on right turns. it starts to subside..... having so much fun racing and chasing guys down, but i have other issues.. my windshield is getting sprayed with oil.... here i am, cursing Ron (POC pres and racer) when i was behind him, but it's really my Power Steering line blown. I'm wondering why my biceps are cramping.. I muster up a bunch of passes, run the 1:31 having a blast racing in a group of 4-5 cars, and going after the next group of 3......but, finally i can barely turn the car so i pull in to the pits ....... (corner workers are motioning me with the "your smoking" signal, puffing their fingers to their lips) cars a mess, oil all over the engine bay and that front tire is cut at the outside edge .
Found the blown line with the help of my "pit crew', Mark, Paul and kids and now the search for a 6" line that has a special dimension that nothing i have can fit. Pepboys here we come... find a few lines with similar dimensions and come Sunday morning, cut one up that fit (fuel line, PS lines were too small)... close enough. Put on the correct tires and off the car went to practice. with all my help gone, took a little fun out of the sunday sessions, but the race was fun.. tires were not so great, but had a good race with a few of the POC'ers. Before the race, i had the #8 header tube ready to fall out of the engine.. NOT connected at all. was going to just can it and go home, but was able to tighten the joint at the bottom (slip fit) and that seemed to stabliize and reduce the exhaust noise. now i have 3 things going on .... power steering that doesnt feel quite right, rear tire (was front previos day that is cut down), and a header that might fall out at any second.
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anyway,
Lots of wind, but was stuck behind a cup car in the turns, only to have him squirt ahead on the straights. By the time i got by, there was only 2 laps left and i spent that lap taking notes on RPM and oil pressures for an entire all out lap. did one lap with a downshift into turn 1, thus increasing the RPM that Anderson would use during a lap for that section and getting close to matching his down the back straight and around turn 8-9 as well as turn 2.
funny thing about the POC red group is that they don't seem to know about when to start a race when the green flag drops which means, " go" at the start... it seems most of the guys in the back, just take off after turn 9 regardless of a green flag showing or not. pretty funny!
so, the 928 survived.... no problems what so ever in the engine department. good power, lots of oil pressure , always, only burned 1 quart all weekend.
and that's 3 hours of all out racing! Totally corded a tire to the steel belts on the inside edge of the right tire... .that's the one that hangs on high g loading, 120-130mph right turn 8-9. the left tire compresses, droop causes more steering angle and the inside tire is angled way way toe out and just get destroyed! always have a almost new tire on that side at willow!
All in all a great weekend but a long drive home and worth it!
Last edited by mark kibort; 05-27-2016 at 05:17 PM.
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Here is the start and first laps of the RACE 1 Wiliow Springs in the 928. canera went dead right when the race got really good, race two is coming.
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Mark,
I was good to meet you at Willow. We thank you for traveling down to run with us in GT3. We hope you had a good time and continue to race with the POC.
Yes, the track was about 1 second slower than Feb due to the heat, wind, and dust.
Here is your clue on T9 - water tower. Next time down I will show you when to pick it up and turn in. Great save in qualifying - many others have not remained as calm and lost it.
And we usually do wait for the green, but we had a few bonehead moves this weekend (primarily Sunday).
Cheers,
I was good to meet you at Willow. We thank you for traveling down to run with us in GT3. We hope you had a good time and continue to race with the POC.
Yes, the track was about 1 second slower than Feb due to the heat, wind, and dust.
Here is your clue on T9 - water tower. Next time down I will show you when to pick it up and turn in. Great save in qualifying - many others have not remained as calm and lost it.
And we usually do wait for the green, but we had a few bonehead moves this weekend (primarily Sunday).
Cheers,