New Koni shocks. Double thumbs up.
#16
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If you hunt long enough, on the Internet, it is always possible to find someone who is willing to make a tiny profit margin on some item and thus allow you to get it cheaper....it's what makes the Internet great....and terrible.
However, $40 savings on the shocks, no shipping, and not having to pay Texas tax....probably a $100 savings, at least!
That's a big percentage....but I wonder what happens when something goes wrong....like you get a shock that goes bad (it happens.)
Roger impresses me as someone who goes beyond the norm to having his customer's backs. That is certainly worth something....I wonder how much?
However, $40 savings on the shocks, no shipping, and not having to pay Texas tax....probably a $100 savings, at least!
That's a big percentage....but I wonder what happens when something goes wrong....like you get a shock that goes bad (it happens.)
Roger impresses me as someone who goes beyond the norm to having his customer's backs. That is certainly worth something....I wonder how much?
So who offers the best Koni shock package? It may not be the cheapest one.
#17
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If you hunt long enough, on the Internet, it is always possible to find someone who is willing to make a tiny profit margin on some item and thus allow you to get it cheaper....it's what makes the Internet great....and terrible.
However, $40 savings on the shocks, no shipping, and not having to pay Texas tax....probably a $100 savings, at least!
That's a big percentage....but I wonder what happens when something goes wrong....like you get a shock that goes bad (it happens.)
Roger impresses me as someone who goes beyond the norm to having his customer's backs. That is certainly worth something....I wonder how much?
However, $40 savings on the shocks, no shipping, and not having to pay Texas tax....probably a $100 savings, at least!
That's a big percentage....but I wonder what happens when something goes wrong....like you get a shock that goes bad (it happens.)
Roger impresses me as someone who goes beyond the norm to having his customer's backs. That is certainly worth something....I wonder how much?
As far as vendors, the below are some the established and reputable companies I've personally dealt with offering the $155:
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...-1086&i1_Qty=2
http://www.shockwarehouse.com/index....cted_year=1989
#18
Former Vendor
All great points, and I agree that paying a few extra bucks from a reputable sources goes a long way. But when we are talking more than a couple of bucks, then things change.
As far as vendors, the below are some the established and reputable companies I've personally dealt with offering the $155:
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...-1086&i1_Qty=2
http://www.shockwarehouse.com/index....cted_year=1989
As far as vendors, the below are some the established and reputable companies I've personally dealt with offering the $155:
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...-1086&i1_Qty=2
http://www.shockwarehouse.com/index....cted_year=1989
And those companies are certainly not the average "Internet ******" that has become so commonplace.
Grab 'em while they are on sale....
#19
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I would like to thank the customers who purchased my sets of shocks even though they could have purchased them at a lower price from none 928 centric companies who are not even sponsors of this forum..
I believe in supporting our 928 parts suppliers and take every opportunity to purchase from them or recommend them to my customers Worldwide.
Neither TireRack or Shockwave are sponsors of this list and as such do not pay to advertise here. They also do nothing to further the 928 community as such.
Without companies such as 928 Specialists, 928 International, 928 Docs, 928 MotorSports, Precision Autowerks, The classic 9 Leather shop, Garage 928, Project 9 & Jensan Racing our cars would be in a sorry position.
Support the people who support our passion.
I believe in supporting our 928 parts suppliers and take every opportunity to purchase from them or recommend them to my customers Worldwide.
Neither TireRack or Shockwave are sponsors of this list and as such do not pay to advertise here. They also do nothing to further the 928 community as such.
Without companies such as 928 Specialists, 928 International, 928 Docs, 928 MotorSports, Precision Autowerks, The classic 9 Leather shop, Garage 928, Project 9 & Jensan Racing our cars would be in a sorry position.
Support the people who support our passion.
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
#20
Burning Brakes
@ Roger, do you still have those shocks on sale at that price?
#21
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Obviously, the shocks set to mid-soft allow for a slightly harsher ride than full-soft, but it's not too harsh and it makes the car feel very stable without being too rough at lower speeds.
The Eibachs, since they are a progressive spring, would probably benefit from a more stiff shock setting. The spring allows the wheel to compress the spring easily to a point at which it stiffens. Some people don't like this as it can feel like the car is floating. The KONI buffers that to keep the car from having that bouncy feeling. Then as the spring gets into the meatier and stiffer compression areas (hard cornering and driving), the KONI uses the rebound to minimize the jolting effect from any repeated bumps with the effectively stiffer springs. I like the ride. IMO, it seems to make the Waissach work better(or at least it seems that way to me) and once you get used to the ride and handling, it is a repeatable action.(It'll be that way every time)
The Eibachs, since they are a progressive spring, would probably benefit from a more stiff shock setting. The spring allows the wheel to compress the spring easily to a point at which it stiffens. Some people don't like this as it can feel like the car is floating. The KONI buffers that to keep the car from having that bouncy feeling. Then as the spring gets into the meatier and stiffer compression areas (hard cornering and driving), the KONI uses the rebound to minimize the jolting effect from any repeated bumps with the effectively stiffer springs. I like the ride. IMO, it seems to make the Waissach work better(or at least it seems that way to me) and once you get used to the ride and handling, it is a repeatable action.(It'll be that way every time)
#22
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RedFlash,
You may need to be a bit patient regarding your query for Roger. He was just recently released from the hospital where he had been 'visiting' for extremely high blood pressure and perhaps other symptoms. I suggest you e-mail directly to 928sRu and Laura, Mercedes, or Zane may be able to help you out sooner.
I've had Koni's on all 6 of the 928's I owned, so obviously liked them! Have a set of NOS waiting to be installed in my BMW 3.0 CS as soon as I get motivated to do that! I had them on a previous 3.0 CS I drive in the late '70's, and really liked them then as well.
Cheers,
You may need to be a bit patient regarding your query for Roger. He was just recently released from the hospital where he had been 'visiting' for extremely high blood pressure and perhaps other symptoms. I suggest you e-mail directly to 928sRu and Laura, Mercedes, or Zane may be able to help you out sooner.
I've had Koni's on all 6 of the 928's I owned, so obviously liked them! Have a set of NOS waiting to be installed in my BMW 3.0 CS as soon as I get motivated to do that! I had them on a previous 3.0 CS I drive in the late '70's, and really liked them then as well.
Cheers,
#23
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It was 5 years ago when Sean put Koni reds and Eibach springs on the car. I thought the ride was good then. For whatever reason, it's even better now. It's like they've mellowed and are now at that sweet spot. (still at factory ride height)
#24
Burning Brakes
When I bought my car the previous owner Chris had put Eibachs and Bilsteins (with the famed Leguia porting) on it. The ride was very harsh. However, this must have been due to the 17" wheels having incorrect offsets, because the ride was much better when I put D90s back on the car.
And the ride even got better when I put Konis on the rear. Haven't gotten to the front yet. Comparing the Konis (on back) with the Bilsteins (on back)... Well, I find the ride with the Konis softer, yet still better handling as soon as you push it a little. (Thanks for the analysis, John, this might very well be the underlying mechanism.)
I did buy my shocks from Roger as well. And, I bought the externally adjustable versions. Haven't had time to play with the adjustability yet. Roger went through quite some pain to get them for me as they aren't really a "standard item." --> Thanks Roger!!
(My lesson learned so far is that before playing with shocks, make sure the offsets are correct.)
And the ride even got better when I put Konis on the rear. Haven't gotten to the front yet. Comparing the Konis (on back) with the Bilsteins (on back)... Well, I find the ride with the Konis softer, yet still better handling as soon as you push it a little. (Thanks for the analysis, John, this might very well be the underlying mechanism.)
I did buy my shocks from Roger as well. And, I bought the externally adjustable versions. Haven't had time to play with the adjustability yet. Roger went through quite some pain to get them for me as they aren't really a "standard item." --> Thanks Roger!!
(My lesson learned so far is that before playing with shocks, make sure the offsets are correct.)
#25
Burning Brakes
I believe in supporting our 928 parts suppliers and take every opportunity to purchase from them or recommend them to my customers Worldwide.
Without companies such as 928 Specialists, 928 International, 928 Docs, 928 MotorSports, Precision Autowerks, The classic 9 Leather shop, Garage 928, Project 9 & Jensan Racing our cars would be in a sorry position.
Support the people who support our passion.
Without companies such as 928 Specialists, 928 International, 928 Docs, 928 MotorSports, Precision Autowerks, The classic 9 Leather shop, Garage 928, Project 9 & Jensan Racing our cars would be in a sorry position.
Support the people who support our passion.
#26
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Value-added: My shameless plug for business - note that we ship our Koni's with our ride height adjustment sleeves mounted in place if you order them that way. Two benefits: you don't have to argue with your old corroded stock ride height adjustment sleeves and 2) you get 5" of thread so you can raise or lower your 928 as you wish (it makes for a 3" adjustment range).
No, our Koni's aren't as inexpensive as some 10% markup internet dealer, but then again - this value added element and our service sets us apart.
No, our Koni's aren't as inexpensive as some 10% markup internet dealer, but then again - this value added element and our service sets us apart.
#28
Three Wheelin'
I would like to thank the customers who purchased my sets of shocks even though they could have purchased them at a lower price from none 928 centric companies who are not even sponsors of this forum..
I believe in supporting our 928 parts suppliers and take every opportunity to purchase from them or recommend them to my customers Worldwide.
Neither TireRack or Shockwave are sponsors of this list and as such do not pay to advertise here. They also do nothing to further the 928 community as such.
Without companies such as 928 Specialists, 928 International, 928 Docs, 928 MotorSports, Precision Autowerks, The classic 9 Leather shop, Garage 928, Project 9 & Jensan Racing our cars would be in a sorry position.
Support the people who support our passion.
I believe in supporting our 928 parts suppliers and take every opportunity to purchase from them or recommend them to my customers Worldwide.
Neither TireRack or Shockwave are sponsors of this list and as such do not pay to advertise here. They also do nothing to further the 928 community as such.
Without companies such as 928 Specialists, 928 International, 928 Docs, 928 MotorSports, Precision Autowerks, The classic 9 Leather shop, Garage 928, Project 9 & Jensan Racing our cars would be in a sorry position.
Support the people who support our passion.
#29
RL Community Team
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Value-added: My shameless plug for business - note that we ship our Koni's with our ride height adjustment sleeves mounted in place if you order them that way. Two benefits: you don't have to argue with your old corroded stock ride height adjustment sleeves and 2) you get 5" of thread so you can raise or lower your 928 as you wish (it makes for a 3" adjustment range).
No, our Koni's aren't as inexpensive as some 10% markup internet dealer, but then again - this value added element and our service sets us apart.
No, our Koni's aren't as inexpensive as some 10% markup internet dealer, but then again - this value added element and our service sets us apart.
Pete
Front Konis with Big Blacks and 993 Turbo 2-piece Girodisc rotros
Rear assembly with Konis during Z06 transmission upgrade (Carl's rear tie-downs too)