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Old 06-15-2016, 08:40 PM
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Default LH electronics - Need -expert advice ...Porken, you out there?

To our LH experts, on a S4 -

If pin 5 on the MAF is either
1) shorted to ground, or
2) shorted to +12,

what would be the expected result, problem, ?

A schematic of the LH would be nice if anyone cares to share


Asking because i just helped a friend diagnose a problem, and this was the likely cause.
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Pin 5 is the MAF output to the LH ECU.

What do you mean by shorted to ground ? If you measure pin 5 to the case of the disconnected MAF which is ground then you will measure a low resistance - about 4 ohms. (Pins 3 & 4 are also ground to case)

If pin 5 is 12v when plugged in with ignition on then there's probably a shorted wire in the 6 way plug. Don't leave it like that as the hot wire will probably fuse.

The rest iof the pins are
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John,
With the MAF removed from the intake, but plugged in to the 6 way plug, moving the harness at the plug causes the car to stumble and die. Upon removing the cover at back of plug it was apparent that wire on pin 5 was shorting to either pin 3 or 4, or to pin 2, as all had exposed wiring.

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Ok, good ! You can buy new 6 way connectors with pins and boot from Roger.
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Hey Neil,

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Originally Posted by neilh
A schematic of the LH would be nice if anyone cares to share
Don't look at me! Electronics have not been an easy subject for I and I. I am glad JS chimed in as he is the expert.

Here is the only schematic that I know of for LH 2.3 (by Chris) with correction and annotation balloons by me as much as I could determine/understand from reading the code and testing.
http://members.rennlist.org/porken/928_lh5_new.pdf

LH 2.4 for Volvo is similar and can be helpful sometimes.
http://ipdown.net/jetronic.info/tiki...s+and+Diagrams
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Originally Posted by PorKen
Don't look at me! Electronics have not been an easy subject for I and I. I am glad JS chimed in as he is the expert.

Here is the only schematic that I know of for LH 2.3 (by Chris) with correction and annotation balloons by me as much as I could determine/understand from reading the code and testing.
http://members.rennlist.org/porken/928_lh5_new.pdf

LH 2.4 for Volvo is similar and can be helpful sometimes.
http://ipdown.net/jetronic.info/tiki...s+and+Diagrams
LOL, thanks Ken, thats what i needed,.
From the volvo info, either a permanent ground or +12 would confuse the heck out of it, as the range is shown as 1.4 at ign on, 2.3 at idle, and increasing with load.

Cheers,

neil

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It's funny this should come up on this forum. I'm restoring an S600 Mercedes with a V12. Two LH systems. And I'm having problems with the MAF not being read by the LH computer on one bank. The diagram is just what I needed

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The "problem" is that some of the ICs in the MAF signal path are custom devices with no data or spares.
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Yo, Neil - you want Alan, not Porken when it comes to understanding electrons.




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