Locked key in car
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928 International will supply duplicate keys from your current key. Take a pcture of it, and the above-mentioned Keys4Classics.com can make one for you from the picture if yours is somehow lost. Alert Tom and Mark that the key is coming, so it doesn't get mishandled at their end.
Get enough spares made that you can hide one on or under the car somewhere that isn't obvious, maybe with a zip-tie holding it securely in place. There's no shortage of cables and hoses under the rear of the car, for instance, where a spare key could be tucked inside a shield or cover and secured.
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The immediate issue:
Consider the replacement aggravation for the different glass on the car, and how easy it might be to replace. Consider your scratched and pitted windscreen as a replacement candidate, especially if you have glass coverage (mandatory inclusion in many states) that will help cover at least part of the replacement cost. Check for local availability first and for a qualified installer of course. Improve your outlook!
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The lock tool pictured in the Porsche manual page needs to be made from some seriously stiff wire, as Jim B points out. So a reformed coat-hanger won't get the job done. I happen to like arc-welding rod, with the flux removed with a wire brush, since it tends to be pretty darn stiff. You can usually get a "sample" piece at a welding supply store if you don't have such things in your DIY arsenal.
Remember that opening the door after unlocking it without the key will trigger the alarm (if you car has a factory alarm). In a previous car, my aftermarket alarm install included microphones in the pillars at the latch areas. Noises from tinkering with the lock, or even lifting the handle to 'test' for locked, would send a 'lock' pulse to the doors as it triggered the horns. If you have any alarm system on the car, you'll want to be ready to disable it when the door is opened. For the factory alarm, that means grabbing the keys, closing the door, and cycling the key through 'lock' then 'unlock' before re-opening the door.
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Used rear quarter glass is available for 50% off from 928 International right now.
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928 International will supply duplicate keys from your current key. Take a pcture of it, and the above-mentioned Keys4Classics.com can make one for you from the picture if yours is somehow lost. Alert Tom and Mark that the key is coming, so it doesn't get mishandled at their end.
Get enough spares made that you can hide one on or under the car somewhere that isn't obvious, maybe with a zip-tie holding it securely in place. There's no shortage of cables and hoses under the rear of the car, for instance, where a spare key could be tucked inside a shield or cover and secured.
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The immediate issue:
Consider the replacement aggravation for the different glass on the car, and how easy it might be to replace. Consider your scratched and pitted windscreen as a replacement candidate, especially if you have glass coverage (mandatory inclusion in many states) that will help cover at least part of the replacement cost. Check for local availability first and for a qualified installer of course. Improve your outlook!
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The lock tool pictured in the Porsche manual page needs to be made from some seriously stiff wire, as Jim B points out. So a reformed coat-hanger won't get the job done. I happen to like arc-welding rod, with the flux removed with a wire brush, since it tends to be pretty darn stiff. You can usually get a "sample" piece at a welding supply store if you don't have such things in your DIY arsenal.
Remember that opening the door after unlocking it without the key will trigger the alarm (if you car has a factory alarm). In a previous car, my aftermarket alarm install included microphones in the pillars at the latch areas. Noises from tinkering with the lock, or even lifting the handle to 'test' for locked, would send a 'lock' pulse to the doors as it triggered the horns. If you have any alarm system on the car, you'll want to be ready to disable it when the door is opened. For the factory alarm, that means grabbing the keys, closing the door, and cycling the key through 'lock' then 'unlock' before re-opening the door.
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Used rear quarter glass is available for 50% off from 928 International right now.
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PCNA or local dealer will simply laugh .....car is a EURO model which they do not support. Plus with 928s they have a terrible record for having duplicate keys actually work unless something has changed over the last few years.
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Just went through same thing two weeks ago, but my car was in a local parking lot on a sunday, night.....after 4 hours and 2 local locksmith attempting to use their own style Porsche Tool, a third locksmith who I though was not going to come, showed up just before I started in on the rear quarter as the car was NOT staying in this lot over night.
After he gave me all his assurances he could get in without damaging the door frame and info on insurance, bonding.....he was in, in less than 5 minutes using (2) of the larger inflatable bag deals, to be honest I almost stopped him cause I was terrified what it would do to the door frame. End of the day he got in super quick and easy for him, charged me $65 bucks and made me a spare key for $75 the next day.
The other (2) locksmiths wear sitting watching this guy...... needless to say I got his cell number in my phone now!!!
After he gave me all his assurances he could get in without damaging the door frame and info on insurance, bonding.....he was in, in less than 5 minutes using (2) of the larger inflatable bag deals, to be honest I almost stopped him cause I was terrified what it would do to the door frame. End of the day he got in super quick and easy for him, charged me $65 bucks and made me a spare key for $75 the next day.
The other (2) locksmiths wear sitting watching this guy...... needless to say I got his cell number in my phone now!!!
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the locksmith that knows the 928 is the way to go. the go in through the rear hatch in some special way. ii had that issues too, 20 years ago! cost me 80 bucks
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I got a key for my 85 (Euro) from the dealer. Using just the VIN. Just the blade and the damned thing was over $90. But it works.
I know they've had bad results in the past, but I had success (I refused to pay for it until I made sure it worked, however).
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You simply keep it in a location accessible without opening the doors/hatch. You can also do this with a spare key, which is a lot easier to use. Keys can be wrapped in tape to disguise them and smeared with grease to attract grime. So what if you have to lie in a puddle and saw the key out with a pocketknife. Hopefully it does not happen often.
Add me to the list of people who ordered a key by VIN, which did not work (was not even close) and ended up getting spare keys from Oz.
If you happen to be in Dusseldorf I know a lock shop there with a 928 key cutter also.
*edit* for posterity the place is DUS is at 7 Mühlenstraße in the Altstadt.
http://www.schluesseldienst-altstadt.de/
-Joel.
Add me to the list of people who ordered a key by VIN, which did not work (was not even close) and ended up getting spare keys from Oz.
If you happen to be in Dusseldorf I know a lock shop there with a 928 key cutter also.
*edit* for posterity the place is DUS is at 7 Mühlenstraße in the Altstadt.
http://www.schluesseldienst-altstadt.de/
-Joel.
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There's a lesson in here somewhere. One for me ist to go ahead and make one of those wire hoop tools and make sure I can get it to work. I don't worry about locking the keys in the car any more, after doing it several years ago at a C&C event. But I've ben at other events (OCIC in DFW springs to mind) where it happened to others. One car was sitting there locked with the engine running. So for the benefit of others anyway, it will be worth knowing exactly how to do it. Of particular interest in the picture is that the loop is inserted behind the lock (towards the rear of the car), where the common assualt would be from forward, where glass flex would leave more room to get the tool in next to the molding.
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On the day I sold my 86.5 I inadvertently locked ALL of the keys in the car. After many hours, we finally snagged a key using a locksmith's small inflatable bags (inflating them incrementally) at the top corner of the driver side door and reaching in with a LONG tool. The paint did not go untouched, but it wasn't too bad. In retrospect, if we had used the inflatable bags (same technique) on the rear hatch lock I have no doubt the hatch would have popped open in short order with little to any effort.
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The best solution to this happening again is to remove the locks and install an alarm. I never plan on parking my 928 anywhere I would not trust. If someone did get in at least they haven't damaged the car in the process. When I was in college I had some yahoo break the door glass to steal the cheap stereo when the car was not even locked. I doubt these are high on the hot wire list. Anyone ever had one stolen?