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This thread is epic - it is like literally watching the complete rails off restoration of Blumaxx! Keep those pictures coming, and again, if you or Jim or anyone else finds as source for the original rubberized firewall insulation, please share that with me. I want to grab it and have it for future resto purposes.
Too many pictures of me, not enough pics of the car. Or William.
We finally found some corrosion on Minerva- left rear window outer channel. Had to be some somewhere...
Inital plan was to _not_ repaint the engine compartment, but if you look at the way it was painted originally, they sprayed up to the shock towers and then it fades out.
Like Erkka mentioned earlier, they didn't paint the undersides of the body with metallic colors
So since we were close to having everything off the front anyway, we took a gamble on being able to replace the body harness zipties, and pulled it back to the shock towers:
Nice to have the body out in the sunshine- there are a couple of parts to go through reconditioning to do while body is off at paint:
RE: being confident, I got the chance to push a broom through the garage, came up with a couple of leftover hardware bits. Hopefully we can figure out where they go:
I went through every baggie last night and measured every nut bolt and washer- interesting detail differences between '78 and the later cars.
So far this project has been easy- disassembly and cleaning is easy on an almost utterly corrosion free car. Have kept good records and photos (1700 and counting) my biggest worry about assembly is not damaging painted surfaces. My biggest mechanical concern is the condition of the head stud threads and how they will torque on reassembly, but we'll see once we get there.
For now the goal is to have it perform at stock spec- I'm 'just' going to check the rod bearings and replace as necessary, replace the head studs to ensure even torques on re-assembly, clean up the heads, etc. I'm sure Greg could turn an 8.5:1 compression CIS motor into a hotrodded thing of beauty, but it would still be blown out of the water by every Honda Accord in the SoCal Gran Prix, so stock is a reasonable goal.
First step (of course) is to get everything lickably clean. I have been marinating the head studs in penetrating oil for a month now, will start gingerly moving them so I can assess the thread condition. Worst case if I mung up a given hole, they can be timeserted. Honestly I'm on the fence about just leaving them but best practices is (of course) to replace. I suppose the first step is _really_ to check on availability of new ones.....
thx Rob......wasn't thinking of turning the engine into a hotrod but rather have the master lay his hands on (no offense) to have it as good or better than new
It would certainly be best to have Greg go through the motor, but then there would be no drama or intrigue about the outcome. Much more interesting if William and I give it a crack. (Bad choice of words? )
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Minerva has shiny black trim everywhere- windshield, doors, quarter windows, rear hatch. All are non-magnetic.
William and I just kind of assumed that they'd all been painted, but prior comments suggest at least the door window surrounds were shiny black. Any/all comments on what the early owners think is correct?
These are really hard to photograph, so a couple of shots +/- flash.
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Obverse- Little bit of corrosion along the lower edge, but still shiny:
Reverse- back sides are a little dusty but no less shiny.
Just trying to understand whether the trim that is on Minerva is the original sheen or if it has been altered/repainted. There's a variety of beliefs out there on this subject, I'm not sure what's correct.
I guess I was expecting to take off the windshield and rear hatch trim, flip them over and see matte black anodizing, and that I'd be able to flake off the shiny paint. But the surfaces are pretty similar on all pieces and on both sides, so either they've been repainted very very well, or they're original, and thus they were all shiny to begin with.
As far as the window trim, even though I don't know the original finish it looks to me that they have been refinished even if it was in the correct finish. I don't remember seeing any early cars' trim with a glossy finish, and other contemporary Porsches were usually anodized or otherwise a matte finish.
The corrosion seems to be originating underneath the finish, doesn't seem like a factory prep treatment.
Another point of order: it seems to me the wheel wells and engine bay in fact do have metallic body color paint but just not clearcoated. Any one know the facts there?
Lastly, Rob is correct that we are doing just cleanup and check before buttoning up the motor with reconditioned heads.
As far as the window trim, even though I don't know the original finish it looks to me that they have been refinished even if it was in the correct finish. I don't remember seeing any early cars' trim with a glossy finish, and other contemporary Porsches were usually anodized or otherwise a matte finish.
The corrosion seems to be originating underneath the finish, doesn't seem like a factory prep treatment.
Another point of order: it seems to me the wheel wells and engine bay in fact do have metallic body color paint but just not clearcoated. Any one know the facts there?
Lastly, Rob is correct that we are doing just cleanup and check before buttoning up the motor with reconditioned heads.
Me, I'd say the 78's trim pieces seem to be painted, with maybe a gloss or semi gloss.
My 84's trim seems to be an anodized finish, with maybe a semi gloss or matte finish.
The trim piece on the 78, above the windshield, actually has stone chips that have gone through to...what looks to be...a chrome finish. (Pictured below) The loss of shine is mainly from the florescent lighting, it doesn't look that dull in person.
The 84 has no stone chips resembling the 78's...any stone chip it has is much smaller and shows no chrome below.
I'll look at the backside of the trim molding from #618 tomorrow for any added information it might supply.
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