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Old 04-05-2020, 01:49 PM
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Hi Paul-

The low compression version of the M28.21 and M28.22 motors for Sweden, Switzerland and Australia have 9.3:1 compression rather than 10.4:1 compression, and 275 hp vs. 310 hp.


The factory literature is a bit of a mess on this point. The 1980-84 and 1985-89 Tech specs book lists all 1984 and 1985 M28.22 motors as being the 10.4 compression, 310 hp model, but in '86 they call out the low compression version for Switzerland and Sweden, while Australia got the M28.45/46 motor instead.

The factory workshop manual says that all 84/85/86 Swiss/Swedish/Australian cars got the M28.22 motor with lower compression, but then on the same page there's a listing for Australia, Germany, Australia and Switzerland getting low(er)compression M28.45/46 motors.

Confusing.

So- I am not aware of any external identifiers on the engine itself that would indicate it's a low-compression motor. The easiest thing to do would be to get a cheap USB borescope, pull sparkplug #1 and look at the piston dish, it should be pretty easy to differentiate. See picture below for the differences in the piston tops.


WP0ZZZ92ZFS840694

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=WP0ZZZ92ZFS840694

1985
C10 - Switzerland market
M28.22 - engine serial # range 82F 05001>10000
A28.06 - transmission serial # range 16 F 05001> 11000. A28.05 = 14:33 R&P (2.36:1) , A28.06 = 13:33 R&P - 2.54

M220- Limited slip differential
I415 - Widening of the gauge on the track on the rear axle
I454 - Automatic speed control
I525 - Alarm with continuous sound
I593 - Antilock brake system (Bosch)
M650 - Sunroof
I686 - Blaupunkt Hamburg SQM24



Old 04-05-2020, 01:51 PM
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Samuel types faster than I do. Samuel, have you seen a Swedish or Swiss M28.21/22 that specifically calls out the low compression motor? I've never seen one.
Old 04-05-2020, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Samuel types faster than I do. Samuel, have you seen a Swedish or Swiss M28.21/22 that specifically calls out the low compression motor? I've never seen one.
I don't think so
Your answer is much more complete than mine.

I haven't seen a low compression M28/21 or M28/22 for a European country so far, and I'm not sure that they were produced. My assumptation is based on the fact that the equipment code for these engines, M151, was only used on 1985 Australian 928s.

Old 04-05-2020, 03:26 PM
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Thanks very much. I will try to source a borescope to be sure...but I’m now assuming (selfishly) its a 310 engine


The options do not list full leather interior...even though I believe it is the case (unless the vinyl really looks like leather). Is it possible all Swiss cars had that option? Here’s a picture of the interior:



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Old 04-05-2020, 03:40 PM
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The "75" on the sticker is the code that indicates the kind of interior, leather or leatherette, colours, etc. We don't know how to decode it, but you could check with any Porsche dealer if yours is correct or not.
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Any help?

WP0JB0924FS862010

FOUND IT in previuos post

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Old 04-07-2020, 05:13 PM
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Yep.

WP0JB0924FS862010

1985
C02 - 49 state US model
M28.44 - engine serial # range 81F 05001>10000
A28.04 - transmission serial # range 16 F 00001>05000

M139 - Adjustable Seat Heating - Left
I158 - Blaupunkt Monterey SQR23 (2 channel)
M340 - Seat heating - Right
M418 - Protective side mouldings
M490 - Hi-Fi sound system ( 8 speakers, balance control, 1983-86.0)
M494 - Additional Amp (4x15W, 1983+), Blaupunkt BQA-80
M533 - Alarm system
M650 - Sunroof
Old 04-12-2020, 09:43 PM
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How about WP0ZZZ92ZDS841137?

83 Euro with a weird import history.
Old 04-12-2020, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
How about WP0ZZZ92ZDS841137?

83 Euro with a weird import history.
yea that was an interesting letter wasn’t it?
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WP0ZZZ92ZDS841137

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=WP0ZZZ92ZDS841137

1983 Euro S
C99 - 'Special'
M28.11 - engine serial # range 82D 0001 >5000
G28.07 - transmission serial # range 11D 0001>5000

M058 - "Impact absorbers front and rear, Bumper with shock absorber instead of
shock absorber-tube"
M261 - Outside mirror - plain-Passenger's side, electrically adjustable and heatable
I395 - Forged wheels, silver colored anodized, 7JX16, tire 225/50 VR 16
I417 - Rear package box
M438 - 6-way Comfort seat right, electrically adjustable, 78-84
I454 - Automatic speed control
I468 - Side glasses green and windshield green - upper part dark colored)
M650 - Sunroof
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Yep.

WP0JB0924FS862010

1985
C02 - 49 state US model
M28.44 - engine serial # range 81F 05001>10000
A28.04 - transmission serial # range 16 F 00001>05000

M139 - Adjustable Seat Heating - Left
I158 - Blaupunkt Monterey SQR23 (2 channel)
M340 - Seat heating - Right
M418 - Protective side mouldings
M490 - Hi-Fi sound system ( 8 speakers, balance control, 1983-86.0)
M494 - Additional Amp (4x15W, 1983+), Blaupunkt BQA-80
M533 - Alarm system
M650 - Sunroof
This one ^^^ is slathered in leather and none of it is on the option sheet... Ahhh, the mysteries of Porsche!
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Exclusive before it was called like this.
it was then the Special Wishes department and there was no equipment codes at all.
Old 04-15-2020, 08:03 PM
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Hi Rob,

Could you check this one?

WP0JB0924GS862235

Thanks.

Tim
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Yep-

WP0JB0924GS862235

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=WP0JB0924GS862235

1986.5
C02 - 49 state US model
M28.44 - engine serial # range 81 G 05001 > 10000
A28.07 - transmission serial # range 16 G 00001>05000


I158 - Blaupunkt Monterey SQR23 (2 channel)
M220 - Limited slip diff
M490 - Hi-Fi sound system ( 8 speakers, balance control, 1983-86.5)
M494 - 86- Additional Amp -Blaupunkt Quadro BQB-80
M533 - Alarm
M650 - Sunroof
Old 04-16-2020, 12:49 PM
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Thanks Rob!


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