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Old 10-29-2013, 11:55 AM
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Can someone please tell me the correct timing belt tension (in ft/lbs or nm)
for a 1986 928 S?

Thanks in advance
Old 10-29-2013, 12:06 PM
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The correct tension is set using the factory P9201 belt tension tool ($$$) or the Kempf "bending" tool. Don't try to do it any other way (especially not on a 32v 928), the Kempf tool is only ~$60 and is very easy to use.



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Or put a porkensioner on and forget about having to worry about keeping your tension set.
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^^^ or that. I have one on my car now for over 40k miles/4 years now with no issues.

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I will get a pk tensioner.

For educational purposes, does someone have the tension data?
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the only tension data would require the Porsche tool and that's listed in the shop manual.

Replace the static tensioner with the dynamic Audi unit and forgetaboutit
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Originally Posted by 928newb
I will get a pk tensioner.

For educational purposes, does someone have the tension data?
There is no simple lbs/ft method of adjusting or verifying the tensioner settings. On some cars you can adjust a spring tensioner arm preload with a torque wrench, but that's not an option with the compressed-belleville-washer tensioner design on the 928. Instead, the tension on the belt itself is measured, based on its resitance to bending (the newer factory tension tool $$$ method) or resistance to twisting (using the aftermarket Kempf tool). The Kempf tool is more consistent especially if you do the work infrequently, and significantly less expensive to buy.

The PKTensioner mentioned above is a more self-adjusting tensioner, using a proven Audi mechanism and pulleys on a 928-specific mounting. If this is your first time doing this (sounds ike it is...), you can probably install the PKTensioner for a cost roughly comparable to buying a factory rebuilding kit for the original tensioner, all the rollers, bearings and bushings, plus the tensioner tool. The 'wearing' parts of the PKTensioner are readily available, when you rack up enough miles to do a couple more timing belt replacements. With no oil-filled cavities an boots to deteriorate, the PKTensioner maintenance is much less frequent than the factory pieces.
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With the original tool it is 5.0 +/- .25 I believe (this is without checking the WSM). Don't know what measure
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Originally Posted by 928newb

For educational purposes, does someone have the tension data?
There is no 'tension data' per se, other than the tension readings on the Porsche tensioner or Kempf tensioner tools.

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Really need the Kempf tool to check tension if it's correct.
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Originally Posted by 928newb
Can someone please tell me the correct timing belt tension (in ft/lbs or nm)
for a 1986 928 S?

Thanks in advance
If only it was this simple.

The Porsche factory 9201 tool is calibrated in "belt units", which have never been defined, by anyone.

Guessing is impossible.
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OK I hear you, gents. Gotta get myself one of them pktesioners then...
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Originally Posted by 928newb
OK I hear you, gents. Gotta get myself one of them pktesioners then...
That's simple.

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