mark kibort

375rwt

1988 S4. 6.0 liter (the devek premium build with corillo rods)
Its got all sorts of little problems.
interior lights
AC doesnt work that well.
heater doesnt work that well either
dash board lights not working
no odometer, but speedo works fine
driver seat doesnt move, but passenger does
mirrors dont work
car has water leaks.
rear quarter panel is toast due to water damage

other than the above, the car is absolutely perfect.

Mk

Hilton

Ouch - sad way to end up for what could be a very interesting car.

Given we know its been running super lean due to low fuel pressure, along with all the issues, its a basket case. In the right hands it could turn out well, but the buyer would need to invest some serious time and money before it was a regular driver (or at all IMHO). The unknowns on the engine front compound the issues - personally I wouldn't look at buying it until I'd had it inspected by a serious (and trustworthy/recognized) 928 mechanic to the extent of inspecting the cylinder bores and rod bearings, and getting it properly tuned with a stock fuel system.

The sad thing is that someone (current owner?) spent a *lot* of money modifying the car. That money isn't recoverable and the car is only worth basically the same as a stock one in similar condition. Which for an '88 S4 isn't a lot.

At this stage, its not economical to do the work to make the car worth more (either get it sorted by someone like GB, *with extensive invoices/receipts*, or alternatively put in a stock motor and part out the stroker engine). The only real question is, will the owner swallow that pill and sell it, or refuse to accept its real value, ask too much and have it languish for another few years until its beyond repair? (if its not already - thats still up to an investigation).

I just hope the owner does a deal with someone capable of the time and money to fix it up, they bite, and it stays in the community so we get to hear about it. (hey Rob Edwards - don't you need another manual? with a 2.2 rear end for those low freeway rpms )

Rob Edwards

Nah, already got another one, which will be anything but low revs.

RE: the car MK is describing, I must say the the owner must be a pretty patient guy, Mark isnt exactly painting this car in a favorable light.....

PorKen

I resemble that remark.

rad_951

Is this car still running with low fuel pressure? How many known miles on the stroker? Do you have a price yet?
Thanks.

mark kibort

the fuel pressure is close now, and has been bumped up to about 44psi, very close where my 6.5 liter is now which was dynoed at the best AFRs possible with the stock stuff and a fuel regulator (adjustable). I think this car needs some 24 lb injectors, as does mine, unless i get the CF intake to get closer to the 400 to 420rwhp range.

Ninespub

I just HAD to post this: Has it been using Amsoil?

mark kibort

it wasnt, and was suffering from low oil pressure on a hot day. also some noise on start up. now with amsoil , those issues are gone.

9 quarts of the street 2050 amsoil.

inactiveuser1

Sounds like snake oil that cures everything.lol

mark kibort

crummy oil is crummy oil. some break down at high temps vs others. amsoil and redline, just dont show this kind of issue. remember, i had the oil pressure light come on at the track on a hot day with the 79. With Redline, not even close to an issue. our cars seem to be more sensitive to this problem or change in viscosity at temp, than other cars ive seen. just an observation. my record also seems pretty convincing, dont you think???

inactiveuser1

I'll let some of the other guys that are more radical comment on convincing a top hat might help

mark kibort

ha ha ha!

dr bob

Mark--

Sale price in this audience will be 'driven' by a "what it could be" number minus "what it will take to get it there" number. Hint: Negative numbers are a common result.

GLWS.

IcemanG17

the engine might be damaged.....has nightmare electrical related issues.....honestly not much value there...but I still stand by my $4500....just cause I am insane

GregBBRD

I certainly can't speak for everything that got built at Devek, but, without a doubt, the last stroker I took apart (which was, apparently, one of the very last ones) was so poorly done that it, unquestionably, had a "negative value" for the GTS that it sat in. Very negative.

It was tough to find anything that was still usable, to build another engine from.....and it had less than 5,000 miles on it!

I would have much rather had (and so would of the customer) a completely stock, unmolested, engine to work with.

The "non functional stroker engine" killed the value of that vehicle!

50K for something that never ran correctly and used copious amounts of oil from the very beginning.....it's no wonder people are "afraid" of Devek's stroker engines.