Jon B.

I said fastest "accelerating", maybe I should have said quickest accelerating? I was simply saying that using those measures of performance on a "normal" car we all drive here isn't really relevant. Using Todd's car would have been sufficient enough, and it's relevant to this thread/forum, etc...

Though, I DO believe that FI is in fact THE replacement for displacement.

Speedtoys

Love ya Greg..but..nobody can tell when you're kidding or not.

When you dont like a solution..you dont come across very open to it..that's all.

Theres a thousand ways there..some better than others, a VERY few..like yours, unusually foolproof...but if someone's other way meets their mission, that's OK too.

rgs944

Damn, are we electing a club president here or what? We are talking about a new kit that is easy to install, built well, and brings the 928 to another level of performance for a very good price. Whether it's 50 Hp more or less is a non factor for me in comparison to ([HP gained] x [cost] x [dependabilty]) There are a lot of great people that have done a lot of very good things for the 928 and now we have one more.

GregBBRD

I don't kid around much, with people that I don't know on a personal basis.

Heh, if you guys want to believe the first sentence in this post, it's your right to do that.

481RWHP from a "Stage 1 kit" making 6 pounds of boost. Go back and read what was said.

Excuse me all to hell, for questioning that statement!

I think that Ford and Chevy would be beating down your door, if you could do that.

If you guys want to believe that out 30 year old design engines are even close to what they are building....

Have fun, in Dreamland!

GregBBRD

I agree completely. Well built, looks very nice, looks easy to install, and looks easy to maintain. Doesn't look like it is built from pieces found in the plumbing department at Home Depot. Seems like there is a lot of potential for additional power, with different pulleys and additional octane.

I've only got one single point that I was trying to make here.

Why spoil the whole thing with complete bull****? We already have a "specialist" on this Forum that does that!

481RWHP with a Stage 1 kit that makes 6 pounds of boost.

DREAMING!

dprantl

Victor has already admitted that the 481rwhp figure was "probably" not on 6psi but "maybe" with "more" boost.

Of course it is not possible to get 481rwhp at 6psi of non-intercooled boost out of a 5.0 liter 928 on a properly set up dyno using SAE correction (unless you have a huge battery hidden somewhere in that rotrex ). Let's just wait for others with the kit to post their dyno numbers, we should see numbers that are a lot more down to earth then.

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

GregBBRD

Yeah, well keep in mind that I was catching a bunch of s$!t, because I vocally questioned the numbers, in the original post, which are apparently, according to Mike, also posted on Victor's Website.

Like I said, we've already got one guy, on this forum, that feels the need to "exagerate" the benefits of everything he makes/sells.

We hardly need another!

Some rookie home guy is going to read this bull**** and think it is correct...and then be really disappointed when he gets 100 less horsepower!

That was my entire point! And my offer to run this "exageration", against a different "known" power output was right to that point!

And I'm made out to be the bad guy.

That's really f@#ked up!

OBehave

That's ok Greg, I was the one who first questioned the output numbers at the beginning of this thread. I don't mind playing the "bad guy". I think you're best suited as John Wayne in this here movie! Now we need Ann Margaret to show up!

Lizard928

Same here Greg, don't feel left out!

SeanR

I think some of you butthurt folks are mis-understanding. This thread was a discussion about a group buy. I opened a thread for everyone to talk about the supercharger its self. That was what Victors comment was about, not ****ting on this guys thread. Go **** in mine if it makes you all feel better.

As to the numbers, no idea and never had any hp/tq numbers quoted when I made the decision to purchase either. I would be happy with an additional 100hp.

OBehave

My interest in the group buy hasn't changed, I just wanted to know facts before I purchased. I too think 100 hp is good for under $5000.

Speedtoys

Then stop calling people stupid.


I AGREE with your skepticism..whole heartedly, but im not supporting the numbers, Im just happy with what I got for what I paid..

But im not an idiot in dreamland as you call it either.


Its cool to disagree, but when you toss fuel on it, and then also the match..being highly opinionated can quickly turn into something less fun when there's no beer to discuss it over.

Everyone values your opinion. Bar none. (well, maybe one guy..), even to the point im going to shiiiiift my job around a little to get your very golden touch on something I know Im not capable of doing myself.

I think others just need to filter Greg speak into something less sharp than it appears.

Rob's car will kick my ***, being he's about 15lbs of $20 bills lighter than I am in that build.

GregBBRD

So, I'm the bad guy and I'm the one that gets called names, because I simply want people to tell the truth?

I need all this grief because I happen to publish real information and want someone who makes silly claims to "put up or shut up"?

Yeah, I am an abrupt a$$hole. I've known that my entire life. My friends know it. My wife knows it. My dog knows it. Even my mother knows it.

I've got zero patience for bull$hit or idiots.

And I get really abrupt when someone intentionally "misleads" other people.

481rwhp from 6 pounds of boost! Read the first post....the claim and the reference to the "source" is still there!

Next you will be telling me that it takes more than 900RWHP to go over 205mph!

Yes, I build expensive "works of art" for genuine people that want a to transform a 25 year old classic into a "current vehicle". I'm not just building engines that make more power....hell, you could bolt a rocket onto the roof and go really fast for 7-8 seconds....I'm building better transmissions, better suspensions, better braking systems, better clutches, better fuel systems, better oil cooling, better water cooling, better axles, even far better cooling A/C systems!

I'm building supercars.

I'm turning 25 year old 928's into, mechanically, what they would be like, if Porsche was still building them, today.

And I'm supposed to appologize that this costs more money than a blower and a belt?

GregBBRD

Me too!

GregBBRD

And....

I've gone back and read, very carefully, what you have said, to me, on this thread...

And I've got a sudden, severe case of **** Glaucoma....

I can't see me working on your car.