heinrich

I have one I bought years ago, brand new still. No idea what to do with it.

GregBBRD

I wouldn't think that this is a good thing. Once the pieces leave your hands, you can't possibly be responsible. You are providing high quality hose and clamps...that's a really good thing.

Without you providing a high quality hose and clamps, the alternative is for people to go to their local auto parts store and buy generic 6 psi fuel hose. We've all seen that stuff installed on these cars.

Your legal exposure is the same as the auto parts store...you have no responsibliity for the installation.

Your moral exposure is that you are at least providing hose that has the proper pressure rating that fits correctly onto the fittings.

If you are worried about leaks at the clamp area, have them double clamp it.

Ather

[QUOTE=Randy V;9178727]Seriously? You had plenty of time to get out of there. You need to get over this and not exacerbate your daughter's fears.

No I didn't. It happened very fast.
Yes, we will get over it.

Vonov

Ditto what Greg said. Some people are cheapskates. With your kit available, there will be less temptation for people to seek the exact thing Greg said: a 6 psi line with worm clamps. You can't be held responsible for an ID10T install of components which are designed to do the job they are marketed to do.

dcrasta

Quick question (beautiful car btw); That fuel pressure gauge on the end of the fuel rail, I have read some people have had problems with them. How do you like it?

Speedtoys

WTF dude?


Greg did -not- say that. Why did you?

Speedtoys

You have to spray it from above, its much heavier than air...and in many cases, its just a tool to get OUT of the car safer..buys you time...but a pressurized fuel leak..may not entirely douse it, as it's a stationary extinguisher.

Dean_Fuller

Roger...PLEASE rethink pulling your kits. I agree with others that the alternative would be bad.

What we DO need is a COMPLETE fuel line instruction write up or video that would cover all weak link fuel lines on each specific model as these very year to year.

SteveG

I agree w/Gregg. How many times has someone found a hatchet job on a TB installed by an unknown, but "professional" mechanic? Outside of the 4 or 5 names who post here how are you going to screen that?

Besides it sounds like this was not an installation error. It takes guts to air these things in a forum and we gain from it.

I'd also like to know what kind of FE was used.

NoVector

Good God, Roger - Don't do this becuase of me. Based on your e-mail, you and I are cool. And besides, I bought this with the understanding it's at my own risk (off-road only). Seriously, don't do this.

You're providing a safe and needed alternative to the community. Average owner is not going to spend 10%,20% or even 30% of their vehicle's total value on premium hoses. And the alternative is, they're going to buy under-rated hose and cheap clamps. Please don't do it. / Bruce

Speedtoys

I agree.

Greg's **** is _nice_, but can be used incorrectly as much as yours can.


Would have cost me another 3mo to get on the road, for a pretty kit, than a working one.

Kinda like the $100 Volvo motor mounts -vs- $500 porsche ones.

If you CAN spend it...feel free, if you cant, well..there are alternatives that are just as viable.


These kits (recall that I brought it up in this thread) are not competitive with each other at all.


Roger..what you do is provide options, Greg's kit is also an option.

What someone can spend sometimes isnt so much an option..and when BOTH are used correctly, work just fine...


If you drop yours, it'll push others towards their own resolution of the issue...thats what you're HELPING with.

Dean_Fuller

"the alternative is for people to go to their local auto parts store and buy generic 6 psi fuel hose. We've all seen that stuff installed on these cars."
quoted from Greg's post.


Tony paraphrased "generic" as being cheap. If you walk in to most auto parts stores and ask for "fuel line hoses" you may or may not be sold lines that will carry safe PSI values.

Rob Edwards

I removed the gauge shortly after Randy had his engine fire. It was useful when dialing in the FPR while Sharktuning, and when I ran the damn thing out of gas. But the smog guy gave me crap about it when I first registered the car, and the potential failure rate of a gauge is higher than the failure rate of a metal ball and cap, so off it came.

Ather

Roger, I agree with what everyone is saying. Your integrity is admirable but there is no need to do that. If auto parts suppliers pulled parts because of unproven issues then they would all be out of business.

There is no indication whatsoever that the fire in my car was caused by the parts I installed or the iffy job I may have done. You can quote me on that. No one is holding anyone responsible.

There are many other parts that are responsible for the fuel system aside from the fuel lines which could cause this type of issue. For the benefit of others, reconsider your decision.

Speedtoys

But to characterize Rogers kit in that light?

I do not agree. It is not "Greg or you're a cheapskate".