Cam Gear Thread
12-06-2011, 10:54 AM
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That's probably because they WERE eaten by acid Fabio .... they usually will acid-clean parts before anodising or plating.
Just a quick mention for those planning on re-annodizing their old gears. There was a thread here on Rennlist back around 2005 or so where someone had sent their gears out for re-annodizing. The electrolosis destroyed the gears. They looked as if they had been eaten away by acid. MAJOR parts of the gear were gone. I'll try to find the thread and link it here. I believe the consensus was that maybe the gear wasn't 100% aluminum.
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12-06-2011, 11:17 AM
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Carl,
Thank you for bringing another product to the 928 community to keep these cars on the road.
We also know about the sunk costs in R&D work and it is sometimes frustrating to hear negative comments on your efforts. BTDT.
But there are others who do appreciate your efforts and work to keep these beautiful machines on the road.
And that appreciation is what makes it all worth it in the end.
Best regards,
Thank you for bringing another product to the 928 community to keep these cars on the road.
We also know about the sunk costs in R&D work and it is sometimes frustrating to hear negative comments on your efforts. BTDT.
But there are others who do appreciate your efforts and work to keep these beautiful machines on the road.
And that appreciation is what makes it all worth it in the end.
Best regards,
12-06-2011, 11:29 AM
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Yes, but that was just because it was...there. I was just taking the pic because people were talking about getting pics and I was 30 feet away from where my engine was.
Et al - I have no idea what this information means at this time, and am not making statements as to what is good or bad. When I bought my gears they were 150 bucks from pelican. I may use them as is, or I may try and get them hard anodized. Hard anodizing professionals will know the mixture of cam gears or will want to figure it out before they dip them - its their job. Many Many aluminum parts are anodized and hard anodized with no such mentioned ill affects and complete destruction.
Et al - I have no idea what this information means at this time, and am not making statements as to what is good or bad. When I bought my gears they were 150 bucks from pelican. I may use them as is, or I may try and get them hard anodized. Hard anodizing professionals will know the mixture of cam gears or will want to figure it out before they dip them - its their job. Many Many aluminum parts are anodized and hard anodized with no such mentioned ill affects and complete destruction.
12-06-2011, 03:28 PM
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Cosmo - as to price. I already beat Porsche's price by almost $50 and am hearing "not good enough". And Roger's talking about a "group buy" to get maybe $370 retail for the OEM part. Don't know if that will ever come to pass.
So why don't I let a few of these out at $320 each so you guys can fit them, test them, play with them, and report back?
That's my Rennlist offer: if you want to try one or more, they are $320 each. I'll hold that price for the first 10 I sell.
So why don't I let a few of these out at $320 each so you guys can fit them, test them, play with them, and report back?
That's my Rennlist offer: if you want to try one or more, they are $320 each. I'll hold that price for the first 10 I sell.
http://www.porscheoemparts.com/partl...layCatalogid=0
The decision as to which sprockets to buy is something that every owner will have to figure out on their own. Price is certainly going to play a big factor in that decision for at least some people though.
12-06-2011, 04:23 PM
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I certainly hope that website has not been updated in a while and is badly behind the times. I got a call from my Porsche rep this morning saying "I found 4 of them in Quebec for you" and wondering if I wanted them.
I have been told 3X in three days by Porsche parts men that they are in short supply. I dont think my information is wrong.
Somebody should place an order off that website and see what happens. And tell them to correct the years. That cam gear was used from 1985-1995 literally, and 1983-1995 according to the PET :-)
I have been told 3X in three days by Porsche parts men that they are in short supply. I dont think my information is wrong.
Somebody should place an order off that website and see what happens. And tell them to correct the years. That cam gear was used from 1985-1995 literally, and 1983-1995 according to the PET :-)
12-06-2011, 04:29 PM
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I certainly hope that website has not been updated in a while and is badly behind the times. I got a call from my Porsche rep this morning saying "I found 4 of them in Quebec for you" and wondering if I wanted them.
I have been told 3X in three days by Porsche parts men that they are in short supply. I dont think my information is wrong.
Somebody should place an order off that website and see what happens. And tell them to correct the years. That cam gear was used from 1985-1995 literally, and 1983-1995 according to the PET :-)
I have been told 3X in three days by Porsche parts men that they are in short supply. I dont think my information is wrong.
Somebody should place an order off that website and see what happens. And tell them to correct the years. That cam gear was used from 1985-1995 literally, and 1983-1995 according to the PET :-)
12-06-2011, 06:31 PM
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The 299 is the right price. There was a thread just a few weeks ago that someone posted about getting their gears for 299 each and was wandering why their so expensive. Like I said on the old thread that got deleted, The NEW Porsche gears can be bought from 300 to 400 US Dollars.......
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Here is the thread from 11-03-2011 with $299 cam gears;
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ars-today.html
EDIT:
Here is the thread from 11-03-2011 with $299 cam gears;
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ars-today.html
12-06-2011, 06:33 PM
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Just called Sonnen Porsche they have 5 in the warehouse at 299.92 each,
92810553004 is the new part #
92810553004 MSRP $413.68 Price $299.92
Engine - Camshaft & timing - Timing gear set
Timing gear set, 928, camshaft - 8 cylinder, 32 valve 1985 - 1990
92810553004 is the new part #
92810553004 MSRP $413.68 Price $299.92
Engine - Camshaft & timing - Timing gear set
Timing gear set, 928, camshaft - 8 cylinder, 32 valve 1985 - 1990
12-06-2011, 06:39 PM
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And here are pictures of the $300-$400 New Porsche gears made by a new manufacturer "KWG"....
When they first came out, prices were a little over $400, now the lowest is close to $300. I would think in another year or so prices will go down as they make more of them.
Here is the thread where I got the pictures from:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...eye-candy.html
When they first came out, prices were a little over $400, now the lowest is close to $300. I would think in another year or so prices will go down as they make more of them.
Here is the thread where I got the pictures from:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...eye-candy.html
12-06-2011, 06:47 PM
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I called a local dealer yesterday here in New Hampshire. My cost per gear is 380. They did not have any in stock. He did a nationwide dealer search and found 5 in California.
12-06-2011, 07:35 PM
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Currently 4 in stock here - 5 in Ontario CA and 44 in Germany. I access the Porsche system directly as we are such a large purchaser from PNA.
Attached pictures are of the 01 and new 04 gears pressed together to show the tooth form old and new. Both are absolutely identical. The 04 gear is the gold colored one.
When I put a brand new Gates TB on the 04 gear there is so little light showing through I could not pick it up with my camera even using a high wattage lights in a white light tent. The belt fits the tooth form nearly perfectly with a slight show of light on the leading tooth face.
Hope it helps
Attached pictures are of the 01 and new 04 gears pressed together to show the tooth form old and new. Both are absolutely identical. The 04 gear is the gold colored one.
When I put a brand new Gates TB on the 04 gear there is so little light showing through I could not pick it up with my camera even using a high wattage lights in a white light tent. The belt fits the tooth form nearly perfectly with a slight show of light on the leading tooth face.
Hope it helps
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission?
George Layton March 2014928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
12-06-2011, 09:53 PM
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I'll be using Porsche parts on my 928. They are proven, factory designed to fit and are available cheaper than Carl's unproven, questionable so called improved units. Also from the pictures, Carl's lacks the rotor marks of the factory units, the hard coating appears to be missing from the interior of the bolt hole, plus I don't see the little notch to use my Porken cam timing tool.
