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Old 08-02-2011, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by docmirror
Very nice progress. I have a few suggestions from the cheap seats. many lakes nowaday prohibit O/T exhaust, or they must have a diffuser in them. The only exceptions are race boats in competition. Not sure about your plans for which lake, but be advised. Diffusers have to be USCG approved type so - $$$$$$.

When you make the mounts for the stringers, use longer pieces than you see in most boats. If you use the common 3-4" long bits I've seen some of them pulled out of the stringer after it gets punky. So, I advise using 8" angle, with a large plate on the other side to distribute load. This is going to be more important if you go with a higher torque system like the blower from Dave.

Also, there used to be a question about solid or damping mounts. Since the pump, and the drive spline are solid side to side, I always think it's best to go with solid mounts and just live with the vibration in the hull. It will vibrate, so be ready for that. Some guys get tired of it if they have poor seats, but you can put a viscous mount under the seat so your *** doesn't get numb after a few hours of riding around.

So, I'd go with water logs, and through transom, or get diffusers. Solid long mounts, and some seat dampers to the hull. It looks like fun, I wish I could come up and help out. You're doing fine work there.

Edit: I just went back and looked at the hull bilge pics and you already have the Alum stiffeners in there, so ignore my blather about the longer than normal engine mounts. It's already taken care of.
Hi Doc, thanks for the input...I'm listening

As you noted, the previous owner did a pretty nice job of sandwiching a 4' section of the stringers between aluminum plate and a heavy aluminum angle. His engine was on solid mounts so I was going to go the same route.

My exhaust system is a marine specific set of headers and they have water injection nozzles on the primary tubes to cool the pipes and supposedly dampen the sound a bit. I'm not counting on much noise suppresion....... My current plan is to run them as is for at least a start up and test drive. After that, my stock of aquired "junk" includes a set of giant super-trap boat exhausts that I can trim and graft onto these headers. (pic below) If the tube headers turn out to be a real problem I also have what I believe you are referring to as log type manifolds.
(pic 2 below) These are from the ford 460 but the bore spacing is very close and I could probably rework them to fit.

The rivers and lakes around here have pretty restrictive speed limits so I don't think I'll be all that welcome, even if I behave myself.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DR
Even a little ole 1963 Fiberglass boat that won the Miami to Bimini Offshore Race that same year.


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Dave....I have admired that boat for a long time. I was not aware it was restored or even still around. A "vintage" offshore boat would be fantastic project.
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Originally Posted by Tass 928
Dave....I have admired that boat for a long time. I was not aware it was restored or even still around. A "vintage" offshore boat would be fantastic project.
Finding another like that in restorable condition would be a tough find...wonder were #15 ended up??

Would be cool to find a "new" virgin never rigged one like that.
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:11 PM
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The unit next door to 928 International was rented for a while by some "boat guys". They specialized in fiberglass repair interior work. They often were replacing floors, stringers etc in relatively small trailered boats. They would cut away everything but the outer shell and replace all the wood....with new wood. Then glass it all in.
The comment..." pulled out of the stringer after it gets punky. " just reminded me of the guys next door and the number of boats I see on Craigs list which mention soft spots in the floor or floor recently replaced.
Tass's boat is obviously not going to be in the water much or stored outside without a cover and should be great fun ! The last boat I bought was a 21 foot SCARAB 1987 with a 350 for my daughter about 1 1/2 years ago (Her money) and then trailered it to Texas for her.
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
The unit next door to 928 International was rented for a while by some "boat guys". They specialized in fiberglass repair interior work. They often were replacing floors, stringers etc in relatively small trailered boats. They would cut away everything but the outer shell and replace all the wood....with new wood. Then glass it all in.
The comment..." pulled out of the stringer after it gets punky. " just reminded me of the guys next door and the number of boats I see on Craigs list which mention soft spots in the floor or floor recently replaced.
Tass's boat is obviously not going to be in the water much or stored outside without a cover and should be great fun ! The last boat I bought was a 21 foot SCARAB 1987 with a 350 for my daughter about 1 1/2 years ago (Her money) and then trailered it to Texas for her.
Jim, That soft-floor syndrome is one of the things that put me off with the original donor boat (blue checkmate in post above). The fix is tedious and miserable work. My new donor has no "floor" other than the actual shell of the boat. The full length stringers are a huge intrusion on the people space but thats where the strength comes from. I originally planned a v-hull with reasonable free board figuring I might get more use out of it. When this hi-po hull came along, all that went right out the window
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Originally Posted by Tass 928
Jim, That soft-floor syndrome is one of the things that put me off with the original donor boat (blue checkmate in post above). The fix is tedious and miserable work. My new donor has no "floor" other than the actual shell of the boat. The full length stringers are a huge intrusion on the people space but thats where the strength comes from. I originally planned a v-hull with reasonable free board figuring I might get more use out of it. When this hi-po hull came along, all that went right out the window
Chopper gun laid vs Hand Laid hull has a lot to do with longevity...almost as much as common sense care/maint.

Nice looking Hand Laid hull you got there for your 928 boat project....take care of it and it will be floating when most of us are laying very, very still
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I'll throw this into the boat thread......you can see my first 928 in the pic. A 79' euro that I bought around 1985'. Boat was a 28' checkmate with twin merc 200s'.
Wish I had it back as it turns out it was a pretty rare boat.
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Dave,

NICE!!!!

Light lean hulls with twin egg beaters are EVIL..and more fun than any mortal should have!!

A few 24 footers..




This one reminds me when I used to live in Bermuda in the 80s...



But, getting back to Porsche Powered Boats ...if I won the Big Lotto tomorrow..this would still be my first boat purchase...even at $300K.

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Blasted phone dials are back and now in the hands of the powder coater. While handling these things it occurs to me what a really nice wheel they are. The quality is amazing and for thier time, the styling was pretty wild.
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Originally Posted by Tass 928

I actually have full set of 928 marine conversion parts, including water cooled exhaust and closed loop cooling that I chose to not use on this build. They are for an S4 engine but could be adapted. I'm saving them for a future project.

How rare are those and where on earth did you find them?
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BTW Love this project!
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Originally Posted by tilac999
How rare are those and where on earth did you find them?
So rare that no one is even looking for them.

There were not a lot of them manufactured but the work that went into that program is astounding. All of the parts looks as though they were made by the thousands. They are fully developed factory parts, no hint of being prototypes or low volume pieces. They all have factory 928 part numbers.

I got my set from Mark Anderson and I believe he got them from someone that took an engine out of a boat to put in a car.
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Originally Posted by tilac999
BTW Love this project!
Thanks

Somebody had to do it LOL
We should start another thread on 928 powered stuff. I have stumbled on a few interesting projects but didn't think to save the information
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Originally Posted by Tass 928
Blasted phone dials are back and now in the hands of the powder coater. While handling these things it occurs to me what a really nice wheel they are. The quality is amazing and for thier time, the styling was pretty wild.
Dave,
You are so right! I think they are amazing as well.

Did you pay particular attention to OE color, or just close?
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Going through some old car magazines I stumbled upon this project. Mercury Marine made a few 24' boats with the original ZR-1 engine back in the day. The trailer had Corvette wheels and ZR-1 tail lights.
The interior of the boat was also based on the 2nd generation C4 Vette.





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