UK RECORD 208.10 MPH IN A 928
11-30-2010, 05:38 PM
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11-30-2010, 05:54 PM
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Where do we order our stickers, and are they customizable?
Your record has just been broken Brett------
My record for the UK run is 209 mph as will be posted on my window, but because the air is thinner over here in the U.S. I can acheive 222 mph here. 12.9 in the 1/4 mile.
Everything stock except for the intake air box being packed with dry ice, bottle of NOS octane booster, and I put Rejex all over the car, allowing for my aerodynamic coefficient to become non-existant.
No witnesses, actually there was one but he had to be silenced. I know, pretty impressive!!!
Your record has just been broken Brett------
My record for the UK run is 209 mph as will be posted on my window, but because the air is thinner over here in the U.S. I can acheive 222 mph here. 12.9 in the 1/4 mile.
Everything stock except for the intake air box being packed with dry ice, bottle of NOS octane booster, and I put Rejex all over the car, allowing for my aerodynamic coefficient to become non-existant.
No witnesses, actually there was one but he had to be silenced. I know, pretty impressive!!!
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11-30-2010, 06:04 PM
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Being a fairly new member myself I like to mind my p's & q's and for example not revive an old thread to call someone a liar regardless if its true or not.
Just my opinion but it makes for a bad first impession, and that you come off as a bit of a loud mouth...again jmo from one newbie to the next.
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Just my opinion but it makes for a bad first impession, and that you come off as a bit of a loud mouth...again jmo from one newbie to the next.
Cheers,
Troy
11-30-2010, 06:05 PM
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11-30-2010, 06:07 PM
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11-30-2010, 06:23 PM
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Now thats some funny ****!! Matt, I spent 40 yrs in New Jersey...trust me, the place is full of B.S. Whats so hard for a guy with one month and 29 posts to believe?? There are alot of very well read people on this board with years of 928 experience. Some are more crazy than others, but thats their call.
I have no reason to not believe Brett and don`t care if he has proof or not.
BTW, the laws of physics comment was B.S.
11-30-2010, 06:26 PM
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So, ive been following along from a distance. what is the complaint about Brett? that there is no hard core proof? that its impossible to run 208mph with his car set up like it is?
certainly, the car can do it. alll you need is HP. the stability of his car will be no different than when devek's car did it, albeit with less power I imagine, as they had everything "aero'ed" out. (i.e. taped down, etc) so, if devek did it with 460rwhp, im sure if Brett had NOS to run 500rwhp, he could run 208mph too, right? you dont need wings. (wings are bad for speed runs) splitters, (splitters are bad for speed runs, but better than nothing at all) what you need is a low air dam up front and a long road. splitters rout air to the sides (as long as you can route the air to the sides) at the cost of pushing down on the splitter itself. air dams route the air to the sides too, but not as effectively, with no down force increasing rolling pressure/friction. rear kick tails are used to reduce drag. so, i have no doubt that the 928 can run 208mph with out much fuss, if you have enough HP. if the debate is does he have 500rwhp, then that should be assumed yes, because there are hondas with 500rwhp wtih huge turbos that can produce that power and not blow. in fact, i raced against an S2000 with 520rwhp that lasted most of a full racing season.
(2.2 liter and a turbo). no doubt a 4.7 liter with a NOS set up could do the same, without even yawning.
some in car video would have been good. in fact, a lot of arguments here on the web can be solved by seeing some proof, no doubt. i think , if you are going to put stickers to the fact on the car, you need to show video of the occurance!
certainly, the car can do it. alll you need is HP. the stability of his car will be no different than when devek's car did it, albeit with less power I imagine, as they had everything "aero'ed" out. (i.e. taped down, etc) so, if devek did it with 460rwhp, im sure if Brett had NOS to run 500rwhp, he could run 208mph too, right? you dont need wings. (wings are bad for speed runs) splitters, (splitters are bad for speed runs, but better than nothing at all) what you need is a low air dam up front and a long road. splitters rout air to the sides (as long as you can route the air to the sides) at the cost of pushing down on the splitter itself. air dams route the air to the sides too, but not as effectively, with no down force increasing rolling pressure/friction. rear kick tails are used to reduce drag. so, i have no doubt that the 928 can run 208mph with out much fuss, if you have enough HP. if the debate is does he have 500rwhp, then that should be assumed yes, because there are hondas with 500rwhp wtih huge turbos that can produce that power and not blow. in fact, i raced against an S2000 with 520rwhp that lasted most of a full racing season.
(2.2 liter and a turbo). no doubt a 4.7 liter with a NOS set up could do the same, without even yawning.some in car video would have been good. in fact, a lot of arguments here on the web can be solved by seeing some proof, no doubt. i think , if you are going to put stickers to the fact on the car, you need to show video of the occurance!
11-30-2010, 06:36 PM
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Matt, what laws is he breaking?
as long as this guy puts down 460rwhp, the feat is beliveable, right? from a physics perspective. was it safe? probably not, but that is relative.
I do think we do need some proof before we can get on the congratulation bandwagon!
I cant remember his dyno run, but Im sure it was in the
as long as this guy puts down 460rwhp, the feat is beliveable, right? from a physics perspective. was it safe? probably not, but that is relative.
I do think we do need some proof before we can get on the congratulation bandwagon!
I cant remember his dyno run, but Im sure it was in the
However, your rationale of your highly empowered will being the sole reason for your 'accomplishment,' and the opinions of people who are more technical than me, show your feat to defy the laws of physics. Maybe you achieved this with some extrapolated metric on a dyno with strong restraints, but as the laws of physics dictate, you should have been Mary Poppins floating to your fatalist demise. Sorry...laws of physics are laws for a reason...
I'm not questioning your attitude, will or resolve, just the viability of your claims.
I don't think you're nuts for being an adrenaline junkie, I think you could be delusional for believing you could willingly 'just' break the barriers of aerodynamic and gravitational laws...
All the best Matt
I'm not questioning your attitude, will or resolve, just the viability of your claims.
I don't think you're nuts for being an adrenaline junkie, I think you could be delusional for believing you could willingly 'just' break the barriers of aerodynamic and gravitational laws...
All the best Matt
11-30-2010, 08:25 PM
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I agree with "Hold On"- why drag out an old thread and call the OP a liar when you just walked in the door? Not good for your first impression---especially when , like MK says, it IS totally do-able...
Arthur, I believe if you read his 1/4mile post, it was without benefit of the full pop of NO2, so not representative of what it could do...
Steve
Arthur, I believe if you read his 1/4mile post, it was without benefit of the full pop of NO2, so not representative of what it could do...
Steve
11-30-2010, 08:36 PM
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It's absolutely do-able.
And Brett may have done it.
But without more solid proof, people aren't going to believe it.
The problem is that we all know people who put things like nitrous on their cars, or an exhaust, or cams, or whatever, and make assumptions about how much horsepower they are making. Never putting the car on a dyno to find out exactly how much. And once they assume they have an extra 200 horsepower, they make the same extrapolations about how fast their car can now go. If it could go 170mph stock, it can surely go 200mph with an extra 200 theoretical horsepower.
The problem in the US, and perhaps elsewhere, is that we have a lot of people who brag, make things up, and come up with fake GPS readings, or armchair estimates about horsepower or speed. I remember a guy I raced in an old mustang who claimed his car to be capable of 200mph. But his speedometer didn't go over 125! So it was all "estimated" based on his RPM, and his armchair estimation of speed. Maybe he got to 150 or 160, and it seemed like 200. But without some kind of radar gun reading, or camera footage, how can you be sure?
Ideally, you put a video camera on a tripod, and strap it to the back seat area, pointing out the front window. Ideally with a view of the speedometer. So we can at least see if you peg the stock speedo at max. If it pegs out, and we can see the car still accelerating, then we can be pretty sure the claims are legitimate.
And Brett may have done it.
But without more solid proof, people aren't going to believe it.
The problem is that we all know people who put things like nitrous on their cars, or an exhaust, or cams, or whatever, and make assumptions about how much horsepower they are making. Never putting the car on a dyno to find out exactly how much. And once they assume they have an extra 200 horsepower, they make the same extrapolations about how fast their car can now go. If it could go 170mph stock, it can surely go 200mph with an extra 200 theoretical horsepower.
The problem in the US, and perhaps elsewhere, is that we have a lot of people who brag, make things up, and come up with fake GPS readings, or armchair estimates about horsepower or speed. I remember a guy I raced in an old mustang who claimed his car to be capable of 200mph. But his speedometer didn't go over 125! So it was all "estimated" based on his RPM, and his armchair estimation of speed. Maybe he got to 150 or 160, and it seemed like 200. But without some kind of radar gun reading, or camera footage, how can you be sure?
Ideally, you put a video camera on a tripod, and strap it to the back seat area, pointing out the front window. Ideally with a view of the speedometer. So we can at least see if you peg the stock speedo at max. If it pegs out, and we can see the car still accelerating, then we can be pretty sure the claims are legitimate.
11-30-2010, 09:19 PM
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It's absolutely do-able.
And Brett may have done it.
But without more solid proof, people aren't going to believe it.
The problem is that we all know people who put things like nitrous on their cars, or an exhaust, or cams, or whatever, and make assumptions about how much horsepower they are making. Never putting the car on a dyno to find out exactly how much. And once they assume they have an extra 200 horsepower, they make the same extrapolations about how fast their car can now go. If it could go 170mph stock, it can surely go 200mph with an extra 200 theoretical horsepower.
The problem in the US, and perhaps elsewhere, is that we have a lot of people who brag, make things up, and come up with fake GPS readings, or armchair estimates about horsepower or speed. I remember a guy I raced in an old mustang who claimed his car to be capable of 200mph. But his speedometer didn't go over 125! So it was all "estimated" based on his RPM, and his armchair estimation of speed. Maybe he got to 150 or 160, and it seemed like 200. But without some kind of radar gun reading, or camera footage, how can you be sure?
And Brett may have done it.
But without more solid proof, people aren't going to believe it.
The problem is that we all know people who put things like nitrous on their cars, or an exhaust, or cams, or whatever, and make assumptions about how much horsepower they are making. Never putting the car on a dyno to find out exactly how much. And once they assume they have an extra 200 horsepower, they make the same extrapolations about how fast their car can now go. If it could go 170mph stock, it can surely go 200mph with an extra 200 theoretical horsepower.
The problem in the US, and perhaps elsewhere, is that we have a lot of people who brag, make things up, and come up with fake GPS readings, or armchair estimates about horsepower or speed. I remember a guy I raced in an old mustang who claimed his car to be capable of 200mph. But his speedometer didn't go over 125! So it was all "estimated" based on his RPM, and his armchair estimation of speed. Maybe he got to 150 or 160, and it seemed like 200. But without some kind of radar gun reading, or camera footage, how can you be sure?
Honestly, I don't care if I've been here for 20 or 20,000 posts...my initial request was legitimate and my 'calling out' the author was reasonable based on him not responding to other, more seasoned members of this board on pages 4-7 of this thread.
I'm not here to have tea and crimpets while dressed in my sunday best and my pinky raised...
If I am perceived as out of line as a 'new' member, then so be it...all that I, and many others, wanted was proof...all I, and others, received was 'believe me and my sticker.' Sorry I don't
to anything but the truth...
11-30-2010, 09:28 PM
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