mickster

Well he said he wants to put it all on red (you saw the color of the car)...

James Bailey

Ah....."Asking $19,280.85 negotiable; will include enclosed top level shipping for Rennlist members located in the U.S." .....free shipping ! FREE SHIPPING , California is a long haul but moot point since the car could not be registered here twin issues of Euro Spec chassis and the blower/ Nos. Also Lateral G measurements are seldom accurate using most toys....they are greatly influenced by body roll and see it as a HIGHER lateral force.

pcar928fan

Yea, Jim, you are absolutely right... to pull constant 1.2G (and "constant" is the ONLY way to measure this) would require a VERY WELL set up car and slicks that are nice and hot!

Mickster, this has been VERY entertaining... it is to bad that NONE of the claims by the owner are plausible! LOL! Qtr mile times that would rank the car nearly in Pro-Stock class in NHRA, lateral G's that would make any pro Sports car driver weep, a Euro car that just happens to NOT have it's EURO motor or its EURO front and rear fenders...

This is like the fantasy 928... If I could have my 928 my way it would break 9 Sec in the 1/4th mile, top out above 260 (and do it in a mile), stop from 60 mph in 75 feet, and pull 1.5G on the skid pad! LOL! I love it!

mickster

Like I said, we'll see when I have more pictures and documents (if they show up! ).

I think he may be lucky to get 1/2 the price, then no shipping included.

Iwanna928

Since when does a properly tuned NOS system negate a engines value to scrape. That's silly! MK had NOS on his track car and stated that there were absolutly no harmful effects of the motor. I quess that means his motor was scrape when he took the system off.

NOS is bad for a motor if not set up PROPERLY. No different than a boosted motor, and the charge is cool! Properly setup it is a walk in the park!

pcar928fan

Stephen, w/o going back and reading the post I think the person who stated that also said that it is RARE that these things are EVER tuned properly and when IMPROPERLY installed WILL (or at least have a better chance of) damaging and engine and THUS his reluctance to purchase any car that had an S/Ced, Turbo'ed or NOS'ed engine, and I have to say, I AGREE TOTALLY with that!

Iwanna928

JAmes, I missed that. Aside from some larger than life stats, they stated that the build had forged piston's and looks like he spent a lot of money. It only is logical that it has a proper tune. If I had the money and the car was cheaper I wouldn't be afraid to buy it. To me the fun is doing it myself. When it comes to cars my business sense goes out the window.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Mrmerlin

as far as the pulling Gs is concerned to break into the 1.0 G on the skidpad, most cars are quite good if they can make .85G or higher
The idea that a 928 is pulling 1.5G is really wishful thinking.
I suspect the drag strip times are for a 1/8 mile

VehiGAZ

The owner's claims to the car's capabilities read a lot like audio equipment specifications... they are 100% true, but the key qualifier is often left off the page. Examples:

100 W (rms) per channel (at 42% THD!)
20 Hz to 20k Hz Frequency responss (at -90 dB!)

For this car, it's:

1.2 lateral G (on a 1000 ft skid pad!)
9 sec ETA (1/8 mile strip)

There are lies, damned lies, and specifications.

Mickster, you are a master of patience! I'm going to have to go back and count how many times you had to post something along the lines of, "His claims, not mine. Will post more info and pics when I get them." I would have asked the mods to close the thread by now!

By the way, "Meow..." was not right. A cat has claws, teeth, and agility with which to defend itself. You would be more of a furry little bunny rabbit in this case!

I think adding a warning about the feeding frenzies here to the noob sticky is a great idea!

danglerb

Larger circle means higher speeds, but wouldn't that lead to lower lateral G forces from a reduced tire contact patch?

VehiGAZ

Maybe I got it backwards? I know that lateral Gs are calculated from the speed you can attain and the size of the pad.

In any event, a car that pulls 0.90 G on a standard 300-ft pad can pull higher transient G-loads on a track or spin out at lower Gs, depending on the turn - the lateral G measurement (and standards for measuring it) ensures a single point of comparability between vehicles. There are also many other factors (such as weather and ski-pad conditions) that must be standardized to have good comparability between tests and between cars.

Imo000

What's the possibility of only the VIN being Euro?

pcar928fan

Gaz,

The way to get high lateral G's is to pulse them...go straight and then turn the wheel really hard and really fast and then just try and get control back...then look at the display. You can run a car up to pretty high G's like that, but they don't mean anything... Skidpads are the REAL DEAL and can't be faked regardless of diameter.

mickster

Got some more details (still waiting on docs and also pictures); the picture I posted of the engine was NOT his engine. Just one he liked and put on his Facebook page (from a meeting of 928's back in 2008).

The engine IS turbocharged plus nitrous. No VIN or any other details yet...

Stay tuned to "As the 928 turns..."

docmirror

I guess this was aimed at me. Not sure what 'scrape' value is. My idea of setting up an engine for NOS is different than others. I stand by my statement.